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Scientists crack a 20-year nuclear mystery behind the creation of gold

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Re: Scientists crack a 20-year nuclear mystery behind the creation of gold

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working fluid? the same hot iron vapour is used to heat the incoming molten iron, no heat exchanger is perfect so the preheat would inevitably be a few percent short of the target temperature, the remainder is just the energy you supply to negate any heat lost through insulation (space is large, so one could use a ridiculously large insulation) not that any of this matters, since chemical methods would be much more e…

Chemical methods would be much more efficient, but they would need huge amounts of chemicals that do not exist on asteroids, so they need to be brought from elsewhere. It would be impossible to bring millions of tons of acid and of water, so if an acid would be used it would have to be regenerated, e.g. by the electrolysis of the iron-nickel-cobalt salts, which would also need a lot of energy. Designing a process tha…

when semiconductor boules are czochralsky grown, afterwards impurities are swept away by heating a zone, and moving the heated zone (the impurities dissolve better in the hot solid compared to cold solid), could one similarily move the gold by such transport?

instead of a heating device, a large mirror could focus sunlight on the asteroid, so that one doesn't need to do induction joule heating powered with solar panels

I'm wondering if simpler solvents for gold (like mercury) could work

Or perhaps faradayic electrodeposition of iron? like how conducting current through 2 copper electrodes in a copper sulfate bath can transport copper from one electrode to the other.

Obviously any proposals would have to be tested on Earth before porting to space...

A lot of processes commonly used on earth are not necessarily the most efficient ones, certain aspects like environmental regulations or poisonous or dangerous-for-human substances can preclude their commercial utilization, but that doesn't mean an automated refinery in space should avoid it too. Thus we can't just point at the properties of on-earth-commercial methods and assume space-based refineries would have to inherit the same issues.

Re: Scientists crack a 20-year nuclear mystery behind the creation of gold

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It is quite difficult to validate if you only consider the most direct of means like smashing two stars together and then physically going out and picking up the pieces. There are other means to validate that type of thing though. Trying to come up with those means is a lot of fun. Can you think of any?

I'm ignorant on the subject, but when you boil it down isn't this all about throwing things at each other?

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Re: Scientists crack a 20-year nuclear mystery behind the creation of gold

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> gold has about the same vapor pressure as the much more abundant iron, nickel, cobalt and germanium, so it would be impossible to extract it from iron by vaporization Magnets! Will fill in the details of this idea later.

You’d have to deal with the Curie Point of the metals.

Oh bugger. Things get disordered when vaporized? Who'd have thought.
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