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The Document Foundation ejects its core developers

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Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers

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Post by chris_wot »

grandinj wrote: post #35
advisedwang wrote: post #10

OK here's my understanding: - LibreOfficeOnLine (LOOL) was created within The Document Foundation (TDF) but largely developed by Collabora. It was source only and suggested users pay a company to host for them. - Some within TDF wanted to offer LOOL as a binary offering. - Collabora moved their contributions to Collabora Online, which they controlled. - LOOL was archived. - More recently, LOOL was revived - Collabora…

Collabora was unhappy about the LOOL revival, but not enough to leave. It was only when TDF contrived reasons to expel Collabora people that Collabora decided to leave. (Full Disclosure: I am one of the Collabora people expelled)

Oh shit, I’m so sorry Noel. That’s awful!

Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers

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Post by chris_wot »

mejmeeks wrote: post #29
hackernewsblues wrote: post #3

https://community.documentfoundation.org/c/board-discuss/26 Looks like there is rebellion in the forums...

Ah - well, with many staff having been kicked out without a word of thanks or apology after, in some cases, decades of work, tens of thousands of commits, and huge amounts of love and effort poured into the project - it is perhaps fitting that a colleague from the Collabora team publicly thanks them for, and acknowledges at least a little of their contribution to LibreOffice. Do have a read.

This is so sad Michael. You gave me an opportunity at Collabora many years ago (I was definitely too inexperienced!) and I’ll never forget this. Collabora is a force for good, and it is sad things have cone to this.

Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers

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Post by trelane »

klooney wrote: post #16
halJordan wrote: post #6

I'm sure there's a reason for the blog post, and the dude name checks himself so I'm sure he's important. But i have no idea what he's on about other than he's mad.

He's a longtime OpenOffice/LibreOffice and now, I guess, CollabraOffice contributor.

More than that. He was one of the primary external developers back when OpenOffce was at Sun. He was responsible for the go-oo fork due to Sun restrictions and slowness, and was one of (if not the) main reason LibreOffice became its own thing after Sun started sinking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Meeks_(software_develo...

Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers

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Post by chuckadams »

zokier wrote: post #32
not_your_vase wrote: post #4

Haha, imagine it Apache would merge LibreOffice back to OpenOffice, and developers also switched. Would be the circle of the decade. On a different note, this industry used to have so much more fun - just solving puzzles to herd bits - before it was flooded by politics.

> On a different note, this industry used to have so much more fun - just solving puzzles to herd bits - before it was flooded by politics. when was that, in the 80s?

I mean, there was that whole drama between Edison and Tesla...

Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers

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Post by bhj »

layer8 wrote: post #30
jancsika wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conversely, I feel like a company with a cracker jack support team to match their sales team could profitably sell support for ALSA if they wanted to.

ALSA?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architect...

(presumably)

Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers

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Post by layer8 »

bhj wrote: post #46
layer8 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ALSA?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architect... (presumably)

Thanks. I thought this was superseded a long time ago, but apparently the newer sound architectures build on top of it.

Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers

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Post by Aurornis »

hackernewsblues wrote: post #3

https://community.documentfoundation.org/c/board-discuss/26 Looks like there is rebellion in the forums...

All I see is a handful of Collabora employees posting different threads that have 0 responses all around the same time?

I'm sorry, but between the sarcastic blog post and now the forum brigading attempt that we're supposed to believe is "rebellion in the forums" this is all just a very sad response from Collabora. You could have just said that Collabora employees wrote some thank-you notes to each other, not tried to bait Hacker News into checking out a "rebellion in the forum"

I still don't understand the details of what happened because the blog post is too thick with sarcasm and insults, but the way Collabora is handling this makes me reflexively sympathetic to the other side for wanting to get away from a team that behaves like this.

Re: The Document Foundation ejects its core developers

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Post by worik »

solarkraft wrote: post #31
amaccuish wrote: post #21

This is ironic timing given the OnlyOffice/Euro-Office drama https://www.heise.de/en/news/Euro-Office-OnlyOffice-accuses-...

Microsoft really has nothing to fear ...

Why is that?

Office is still a core product, is it not?

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