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Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

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Re: Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

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I have one on my balcony. 400 Euros and it saves me 10% of my energy bill. works well and is probably now refinanced.

Which energy bill? Monthly or yearly?

I pay 100 Euros per month energy bill and save 10% of it so 10 Euros per month or 120 Euros per year.

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#42
post #5

Every installed PV-panel is a dozen barrels of oil (eq.) less CO2 in the atmosphere. Plus, so much fun to generate your own power! Can highly recommend it, even starting small. It's addictive though. Living in the center of the city (The Hague, NL), with a home battery, I'm now 100% self-sufficient electrically for 10 months of the year.

How many barrels of oil (eq.) are required to manufacture and transport the PV panel?

The usual carbon payback period for solar panels is 1-4 years.

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#43
post #17

Why do Europeans need permission from their governors to buy solar panels? I bet you also need to pay taxes on the energy you generate even though you alleviate the infrastructure need.

Because those "governors" need to first ensure that their grids and home electrical systems are equipped to handle a solar system pumping into the house power system.

You speak as though that were a bad thing. I'd rather not have people accidentally burning their houses down.

Once it's approved for an area, you go to your local shop, buy an approved PV system, and plug it in. No fuss, no worries, and your insurer must cover it.

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#44
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many barrels of oil (eq.) are required to manufacture and transport the PV panel?

That's 3rd world country problem, British people (with salary in top places of Europe) must save money!

Britain has the 8th-most expensive electricity in the world[1], seems prudent that a Brit would try to be more self-sufficient in terms of generation?

[1] https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/cost-of-e...

Re: Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

#45

Last time I bought a panel from Lidl, it worked only on very sunny day. Very Strange. Inspection revealed it had two 6 Volt 10 Watt panels in parallel and then 12V to 5V USB-converter. When panels were reconnected in series it was quite OK.

What do you mean? Do you mean small solar panel for smartphones? Because the panels in the article are over a square meter big. Mine make 200-400 watts on sunny days

Yes. But 20W panel is panel too.

Little worried about Lidl-quality also on larger scale.

Re: Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

#47
post #5

Every installed PV-panel is a dozen barrels of oil (eq.) less CO2 in the atmosphere. Plus, so much fun to generate your own power! Can highly recommend it, even starting small. It's addictive though. Living in the center of the city (The Hague, NL), with a home battery, I'm now 100% self-sufficient electrically for 10 months of the year.

How many barrels of oil (eq.) are required to manufacture and transport the PV panel?

About 1/10 or so of the output of the panel, e.g. 1 barrel of input energy making and transporting panels saves 10 barrels in fossil fuel energy. That's a rough number assuming a particular mix of oil based energy and no energy cost to procuring the fossil fuels used in the comparison.

Re: Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

#48
post #15

How is this handled in your country? We're talking only about solar panels which plugs directly into your main. Because here, small country in EU, this is not allowed since it would mean ridiculous investment into electric infrastructure. It's heavily regulated and you need special electric meter, license, etc. and still price of electricity is negative in certain times during the day, because everyone who could, got…

Seems like they're illegal as hell in Finland.

https://tukes.fi/-/ala-kayta-pistorasiaan-kytkettavaa-aurink...

If you want solar panels without having to get an electrician, you'd need to connect them to a battery that's not connected to the mains.

Re: Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

#50
post #40

We legalized these in Belgium last year. I bought a 1600Wc + 1.9KWh kit (Ecoflow Stream) for +/- 1300€ last summer. It took us about 2h to install (we had to setup a new plug outside), and I already saved 200€+ since July. I am expecting to save about 350€ per year. Also, as u/jstch said, it's extremely fun to setup and generate your own power!

And how does it work there? You have special electric meter and you are distributing solar power into the grid outside of your household? Or you don't distribute electricity into the grid?

You have to register to the utility, but that's just a form to fill with the model and power of the kit.

With a e-meter, you will get compensated when you're generating a surplus (+/- €0.04/kWh last time I checked).

However, thanks to the battery, I'm self-consuming almost all that electricity, saving around €0.30/kWh.

Expect 800kWh of annual production per 1kW of panels.

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