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Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#41
post #5

The binaries they offer are complied using PyInstaller, which can give false positives in anti virus software.

Google has been anti yt-dlp before it was forked. They also have rules that carve out tools like this from their extension store and at Android, except enforcement is lacking sometimes.

Google is terrified of users having access users control to their video content.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#42
post #5

The binaries they offer are complied using PyInstaller, which can give false positives in anti virus software.

Why would a browser(be designed to) care about this?

Because people download viruses from the internet all the time? "Common sense antivirus" might work fine if you're technically inclined, but that's not the case for everyone.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#43
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By the same standard, Chrome itself is "a tool to download files from Google's servers." Chrome doesn't only download from Google's servers, but the same thing applies to yt-dlp. I'm equally not "surprised" by their bad behavior, but that shouldn't stop us from condemning Google for unethically misleading people and engaging in browser monopoly abuse. --- EDIT: holding up (hilariously) RIAA lawyers as ethical role mo…

Actually that is what they want you to believe. Behind the scenes, secretly Chrome is mostly "a tool to upload files to Google's servers" but because it does not require any actions from the user to do that, many people miss that part.

Oops we accidentally stole, indexed and resold all your data. Sorry.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#44
post #5

The binaries they offer are complied using PyInstaller, which can give false positives in anti virus software.

Why would a browser(be designed to) care about this?

Because Google owns Youtube.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By the same standard, Chrome itself is "a tool to download files from Google's servers." Chrome doesn't only download from Google's servers, but the same thing applies to yt-dlp. I'm equally not "surprised" by their bad behavior, but that shouldn't stop us from condemning Google for unethically misleading people and engaging in browser monopoly abuse. --- EDIT: holding up (hilariously) RIAA lawyers as ethical role mo…

I am sure that RIAA lawyers would rofl at this yt-dlp labelling being an example of Google "... unethically misleading people and (committing) browser monopoly abuse". I want to live in that fantasy world with you though.

Come to our fantasy Linux land anytime you want. We circumvent all of the strange things both RIAA, MPAA, Google and many other companies do to attempt to lock information into a box with only one hole they allow you to look through.

Our fantasy land gets better every time your reality gets worse.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#48
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you almost got it rigth. safari and arc are as bad as chrome. arc is just stable-chrome (it will have the same nonsense with a custom ui next release) firefox sadly is still what you should use.

Why is Safari as bad as Chrome?

Website compatibility is inconsistent, extension compatibility is a slog, the desktop UI is confusing and nonstandard, WebKit itself is woefully incomplete, and on non-Apple platforms WebKit barely works covers conformance tests even with hardware acceleration disabled.

I don't use macOS anymore, but when I did I used Firefox without missing out on anything Safari would have given me. Now that I've abandoned macOS I don't think I can name one advantage of installing a WebKit browser on my system versus something Chromium-based.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#49

The heuristics powering this, as well as the Windows Defender whitelisting, are terrible. My understanding is that a specific binary needs to become popular for it to stop being flagged. This creates a chicken and egg problem. Users are not incentivized to use the program with the warning. But removing the warning requires many people to ignore the warning. This is a big problem for anyone writing Windows software. A…

Conveniently M$ lets you buy a signing certificate to fix this.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48946680/how-to-avoid-th...

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

#50
post #49

The heuristics powering this, as well as the Windows Defender whitelisting, are terrible. My understanding is that a specific binary needs to become popular for it to stop being flagged. This creates a chicken and egg problem. Users are not incentivized to use the program with the warning. But removing the warning requires many people to ignore the warning. This is a big problem for anyone writing Windows software. A…

Conveniently M$ lets you buy a signing certificate to fix this. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48946680/how-to-avoid-th...

Last I checked they can still quarantine your binary if it's properly signed and they decided it hasn't gained traction.
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