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The sudden fall of Sora

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Re: The sudden fall of Sora

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Post by simonw »

adjejmxbdjdn wrote: post #17

Was ChatGPT hyped? It took off rapidly but that was hardly because of any hyping and almost entirely due to word of mouth and people actually liking the product, until the press picked up on it. From what I remember they still had an invite process when they were getting popular and the demand clearly overwhelmed their servers several times, indicating a much bigger response than they expected. If anything I think Op…

OpenAI were completely taken by surprise by the success of ChatGPT. Internally there were debates over whether they should launch it at all.

It's had a ton of hype since then of course.

Re: The sudden fall of Sora

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Post by simonw »

ting0 wrote: post #36

They're just removing it from public access and selling it to big money instead. Think large advertising companies, government agencies, Coke-Cola, Hollywood, etc. The scary part is now that they've removed it publicly, it's going to be harder to keep a pulse on what is real and what is fake. We can't trust any video, audio or text content now.

That's not what's happening. Disney were due to invest $1bn in OpenAI to partner on Sora and that deal has been cancelled.

Re: The sudden fall of Sora

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Post by classified »

wontopos wrote: post #5

The hype cycle for AI products is brutal. Going from "this will change everything" to silence in a few months is rough. Makes you wonder how many other AI products are riding the same wave right now without anyone noticing.

We will notice once they fall silent too.

Re: The sudden fall of Sora

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Post by zombot »

cmiles8 wrote: post #8

The whole company appears to be a giant pile of burning cash at this point and I can only imagine that this wasn’t exactly helping that situation. Was it fun while it lasted? Sorta, but it got old pretty quick. Is this a business? Hell no.

It's a business for all the spin doctors who make money with creative marketing to keep the hype going. Everyone with the ability to sell hot air has an opportunity to get rich right now.

Re: The sudden fall of Sora

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Post by prepend »

anonym00se1 wrote: post #13
cmiles8 wrote: post #8

The whole company appears to be a giant pile of burning cash at this point and I can only imagine that this wasn’t exactly helping that situation. Was it fun while it lasted? Sorta, but it got old pretty quick. Is this a business? Hell no.

Just wait until Sir Jony Ive's unapologetically AI hardware products that cost too much, do too little, and also flop.

Their video about “one day we’ll do something cool, totally, trust us” was so weird. Just in the philosophy if hype over substance in that it puts them in the group of bullshit companies vs the just do stuff and tell you about it when it’s ready.

Re: The sudden fall of Sora

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Post by tim333 »

cmiles8 wrote: post #24
anonym00se1 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just wait until Sir Jony Ive's unapologetically AI hardware products that cost too much, do too little, and also flop.

One would have to think he’s having second thoughts. Attaching himself to a sinking ship would torpedo his legacy.

He probably gets to be a billionaire if OpenAI floats which would be nice.

Re: The sudden fall of Sora

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Post by bko »

drawfloat wrote: post #38
adjejmxbdjdn wrote: post #17

Was ChatGPT hyped? It took off rapidly but that was hardly because of any hyping and almost entirely due to word of mouth and people actually liking the product, until the press picked up on it. From what I remember they still had an invite process when they were getting popular and the demand clearly overwhelmed their servers several times, indicating a much bigger response than they expected. If anything I think Op…

ChatGPT is one of the most hyped tech products ever. We’ve had nearly 4 years of hype. From claims of AGI to claims we need UBI because of the ways it will devastate the work force.

What are you talking about? It has nearly a billion users. It's the fastest growing consumer app in history. What about it is hype? What does hype even mean?

You might not like the discussion around the tech, but to say the tech is hyped like something like NFTs where they had a crazy amount of media coverage and a tiny minority of people actually using it, is just wrong.

Re: The sudden fall of Sora

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Post by adfm »

btown wrote: post #34
_doctor_love wrote: post #29

It makes total sense to me that this would happen. The economics around Sora and video generation in general are just not there right now, and if you're a company that's also doing research into these things, that's basically a bottomless pit for money. I think OpenAI ceding the space to Google and others for the moment is probably the smart move. I had fun using Sora and I'm bummed to see it will get removed from th…

If anything, Sora was an experimental question: giving away video generation is expensive, but is the voluntary user labeling and engagement data, which can be fed into RLHF, accretive enough to model training that it's a meaningful trade to make? The shutdown of the service makes it clear that the answer was "no." (It's not a particularly useful signal, though, in evaluating OpenAI's future. It could mean that OpenA…

OpenAI is undergoing a significant strategic pivot toward developing world models.

Re: The sudden fall of Sora

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Post by wil421 »

bko wrote: post #47
drawfloat wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT is one of the most hyped tech products ever. We’ve had nearly 4 years of hype. From claims of AGI to claims we need UBI because of the ways it will devastate the work force.

What are you talking about? It has nearly a billion users. It's the fastest growing consumer app in history. What about it is hype? What does hype even mean? You might not like the discussion around the tech, but to say the tech is hyped like something like NFTs where they had a crazy amount of media coverage and a tiny minority of people actually using it, is just wrong.

Did you read OPs part about AGI and UBI hype?
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