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Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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This type of writing is very grating on the nerves. It's not AI slop, but it feels the same way, where AI slop is trying to trick you into thinking every sentence is the pinnacle insight of human endeavor of all history, this writing stops every single sentence to say "Are you outraged? I'm outraged! You should be outraged! This is outrageous!" Especially when the outrage is that the user didn't follow instructions t…

Well I once watched an sysadmin with 430 years of experience swear his way through an installation process. Until I, back then a intern, pointed out that maybe reading the install instructions would have been a good idea, since there were some steps in there that would have saved us some time. We scrapped everything and reinstalled following the instructions and 15 minuted later it worked. I admit that I also often d…

Was "430 years" a typo for "30 years" or for "43 years"?

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

I remember that! It was awesome!

Ditto. Worked perfectly and nice UI. Great work!

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

Windows is the same now.

Due to "new and better" approach, each program puts its data in 5 different folders for "multi user" reasons.

What is infuriating that all those folders are hidden and all of them are on C: drive. So your C: drive gets clogged.

This makes it impossible to track how much space each program uses.

(On a side note its been years since floppy drives were the A: drive... and yet we are still stuck with the primary disk being called C:)

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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This type of writing is very grating on the nerves. It's not AI slop, but it feels the same way, where AI slop is trying to trick you into thinking every sentence is the pinnacle insight of human endeavor of all history, this writing stops every single sentence to say "Are you outraged? I'm outraged! You should be outraged! This is outrageous!" Especially when the outrage is that the user didn't follow instructions t…

Well I once watched an sysadmin with 430 years of experience swear his way through an installation process. Until I, back then a intern, pointed out that maybe reading the install instructions would have been a good idea, since there were some steps in there that would have saved us some time. We scrapped everything and reinstalled following the instructions and 15 minuted later it worked. I admit that I also often d…

> But I know people who are snuggly proud about not reading the manual and I really don't get it.

Agreed... but there seem to be more and more products that either don't have manuals, or whose manuals are so badly written that reading them turns out to be a waste of time. I feel like people are being trained not to read manuals anymore, so I understand the people whose first instinct is "that thing is going to be useless, I'm not going to waste my time reading it". But not the ones who are proud of not reading manuals, that doesn't make sense to me either.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

Lots of Mac software is still like this minus possible leftovers in a few other folders for uninstall.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

When a user mode application on the Mac doesn't just allow you to drag the app into the applications folder to install, it's a red huge red flag.

Personally, I'd look for another alternative from a company that better understands the Mac.

Chrome, for instance, previously used an installer that had to run with administrative permissions and famously ended up rendering systems unbootable.

System utilities and drivers are the exception, since they have to modify system folders to install.

Partition Magic was pretty awesome, BTW.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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I think the most obscene thing here is that macOS is now littered with permission prompts for camera, background execution, etc, but makes no effort to stop even industry partners from spraying the disk with dozens of files that can’t be removed easily.

That's because this particular sort of cyber security is merely theatrics with the goal of reducing user agency and increasing paranoia and vendor lock-in. The user facing friction is the goal. There will always be scams and viruses; the only practical outcome will be that you have less control over your computer, and Apple/MS/Google have more. See: Sideloading, Wayland, UWPs, iOS JIT, Windows XP and 7 still being us…

Maybe I don't understand your point, but why is Waylabd in your list?

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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I recently tried to install Samsung magician on Windows 11. Tried. It flat out doesn’t work, tried some basic remediation and internet searching to figure it out, but could not get it to run at all. Completely nonfunctional. Seems to be an issue with some electron configuration or command line args. I gave up because it wasn’t worth more effort, but I believe it when I read that the software is a dumpster fire.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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I think the most obscene thing here is that macOS is now littered with permission prompts for camera, background execution, etc, but makes no effort to stop even industry partners from spraying the disk with dozens of files that can’t be removed easily.

It’s like they went backwards on this. The utility that handles .pkg files used to have a command line uninstall option.

Anyway, I kinda like PearCleaner for removing the cruft. It’s not perfect but it’s open source and one of the better options imo.

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I empathize with many of the complaints, but some are a bit ridiculous. Using custom fonts in software UI is completely reasonable and normal, even if you don't like it.

I remember a time when UIs looked consistent, instead of custom-branded, and I still think the "completely reasonable and normal" state is the former, not the latter.

As I remember, that was before the rise of multi-platform, web-based and mobile apps.

You'd get Office 2003 and it'd follow the Windows XP style with lots of blue [1] and you'd get Office 2004 for Mac with the brushed metal styling [2] - and many applications only targeted a single platform.

Whereas in the modern age you get Slack for Web, Slack for Windows, Slack for Mac, Slack for Linux, Slack for iOS and Slack for Android - and it tries to be consistent across different platforms, instead of being consistent with different platforms.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2003 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2004_for_Mac

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