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Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

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Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

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Post by louisescher »

rvrb wrote: post #29

Users in a Discord server/local community on tools like Discord naturally expect that their actions within that community are private in so far as they trust everyone in the community (including the operator) to keep it so. By using ATProto, Colibri fundamentally makes all of your communication within any community completely public to everyone on the internet. That’s fine for something like Twitter, where the produc…

Fair point! A different user has already pointed out that this isn't disclosed enough on the landing page, and I'll be adding a section to clarify that, both on there and in the app itself.

I think one of the replies here already linked the current proposal for private data spaces, which I'm hoping will become implemented later this year. At that point, people will have the option of either having their community be 100% public, or confined to a more Discord-style data storage, where people can still join, but not everyone can "just read" the messages

Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

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Post by steveklabnik »

louisescher wrote: post #41
rvrb wrote: post #29

Users in a Discord server/local community on tools like Discord naturally expect that their actions within that community are private in so far as they trust everyone in the community (including the operator) to keep it so. By using ATProto, Colibri fundamentally makes all of your communication within any community completely public to everyone on the internet. That’s fine for something like Twitter, where the produc…

Fair point! A different user has already pointed out that this isn't disclosed enough on the landing page, and I'll be adding a section to clarify that, both on there and in the app itself. I think one of the replies here already linked the current proposal for private data spaces, which I'm hoping will become implemented later this year. At that point, people will have the option of either having their community be…

Just want to chime in with, this does feel very slick, but this was the #1 question I had. I could not determine it from your site, and had to try it out to see.

One major criticism of things like Discord is that they're private, so I don't think that it's inherently disqualifying, some people might even prefer it for that reason. But it's very, very important that you're very clear about this, up front.

Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

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Post by em-bee »

rvrb wrote: post #31
em-bee wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

any discord server that offers public invites is effectively public.

First, the user knows this when joining a public community. Second, the moderators can choose to remove someone who has joined the community in bad faith. Third, it is entirely different than broadcasting every single action taken by every single user in every single community on the entire protocol to anyone with one URL.

the moderators can choose to remove someone who has joined the community in bad faith

unless you prevent new members from reading the chat history until given permission then they can already read everything before they are kicked out, and they can come back with a different account.

you also can not detect people acting in bad faith if all they do is read.

basically, you can't expect privacy if you don't limit members to people you know and trust. that goes for any group chat, encrypted or not.

i also doubt that discord chatlogs are encrypted on their servers.

Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

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Post by ebbi »

Is there anything like this but more of a reddit style layout?

I'm on a Facebook group and we're actively trying to get off of all Meta platforms, and wanted to see whether I could start up my own platform using an open source platform - but I think something like Reddit would be more suitable as opposed to a massive chat UI.

Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

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Post by louisescher »

steveklabnik wrote: post #42
louisescher wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair point! A different user has already pointed out that this isn't disclosed enough on the landing page, and I'll be adding a section to clarify that, both on there and in the app itself. I think one of the replies here already linked the current proposal for private data spaces, which I'm hoping will become implemented later this year. At that point, people will have the option of either having their community be…

Just want to chime in with, this does feel very slick, but this was the #1 question I had. I could not determine it from your site, and had to try it out to see. One major criticism of things like Discord is that they're private, so I don't think that it's inherently disqualifying, some people might even prefer it for that reason. But it's very, very important that you're very clear about this, up front.

I really appreciate you chiming in, no matter how slick! New section has been added, lmk if you'd like to see this adjusted further

Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

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Post by louisescher »

ebbi wrote: post #46

Is there anything like this but more of a reddit style layout? I'm on a Facebook group and we're actively trying to get off of all Meta platforms, and wanted to see whether I could start up my own platform using an open source platform - but I think something like Reddit would be more suitable as opposed to a massive chat UI.

Hi! We've got Forum-Style channels planned, similar to Discords, would that work for you? It'd still be a single text channel, and you could have multiple of them per community.
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