Israel really needs to stop interfering in other countries' elections. That's not acceptable. We don't interfere when their population votes for warcriminals either.
This isn't Israel the state, it's a private company that's based in Israel.
Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote
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Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote
#42I want to talk about Ticketmaster. People hate Ticketmaster. For good reason. TM throws on all these fees, clearly engages in third-party selling, makings buying difficult and jacks up prices. All of this is known. But what's less known is that artists, especially big artists, like Ticketmaster. Why? Because TM is a sacrificial anode. It takes all the hate but adding junk fees that in part go to the artist. The artis…
Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
To say that this is entirely the Slovenian party's fault implies that Israel cannot govern their own state. Both are complicit.
> implies that Israel cannot govern their own state Or more simply that what the Israeli company did, is not illegal in Israel.
Selective prosecution is a recurring issue under Israeli jurisprudence.
Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote
#44Am I mistaken but in theory aren't Solvenia and Isreal technically allies ? I'm not naive to believe intelligence agencies don't target each other in many ways, but general voting interference seems quite brazzen. I would love to see an example being made out of them here. That said, bar sanctions, Isreali 'private' companies like this seem to have carte blanch on whatever they want to do. No sanctions, no fines, not…
How are they technically allies? Israel is not in eu or nato. If you mean broadly, western-minded, yes but slovenia expressed some uncomfortable positions for israel lately
hasn't everyone though ? Does that mean Isreal is in the clear to interfere ?
> Israel is not in eu or nato. No of course not, but there is an alignment technically, I guess the western minded.
Ireland is not a NATO member but there would be some backlash from hearing Isreal was interfearing in elections.
Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote
#45Israel really needs to stop interfering in other countries' elections. That's not acceptable. We don't interfere when their population votes for warcriminals either.
This isn't Israel the state, it's a private company that's based in Israel.
Coincidences are funny sometimes :-)
Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote
#46Alternate source due to paywall: https://www.politico.eu/article/black-cube-leak-tape-corrupt...
"The SDS says the recordings — which feature a former minister, a top lawyer and other prominent figures — are proof of corruption at the highest levels of Slovenian society; while Golob’s supporters say the scandal is evidence that Janša is collaborating with foreign entities to retake power." Sounds like they're all just different brands of scum.
Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote
#47I wonder when people will stop being scared to speak out. Is it once they lose their job due to stolen data? Is it once Palantir decides they are a threat and they lose their freedom? Is it once they lose their own land? Is it after starting the 10th war?
At the risk of stating the obvious, Black Cube is an actual private intelligence firm that sells spy services [1], while Palantir is a software firm that sells software (even if that software is used by intelligence, gov, etc). You can go spin up a free Foundry instance [2] and test it, and it doesn't have secret buttons to imprison people. [1] https://www.blackcube.com/ [2] https://www.palantir.com/developers/
Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
gee I wonder what does the private company gain from defaming another country's "pro-Palestine" party.
...money? My point is a simple one: the company was hired by someone. Was it the opposition party? To say this is entirely Israel's doing implies the Slovenian party that benefits just happens to have gotten lucky. The reality is likely considerably murkier than that.
Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
gee I wonder what does the private company gain from defaming another country's "pro-Palestine" party.
...money? My point is a simple one: the company was hired by someone. Was it the opposition party? To say this is entirely Israel's doing implies the Slovenian party that benefits just happens to have gotten lucky. The reality is likely considerably murkier than that.
Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote
#50Israel really needs to stop interfering in other countries' elections. That's not acceptable. We don't interfere when their population votes for warcriminals either.