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Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by neom »

arm wrote: post #38
neom wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of the examples in here, I can't find? Like, I looked around for the new smart folder with the cog icon, where is it on my mac? Same with save as check, where is that? Also I'm pretty sure (although I can't find it) the save as with the up arrow is save as out to something? The ones I do find, all make perfect sense and work pretty well for me, they're not totally perfect but I'd never thought about them much b…

New Smart Folder with a cogwheel icon is in the File menu of Notes.app , while New Smart Folder with a folder+cogwheel icon is in the File menu of Finder.app .

Thanks! I don't use the notes app, cog is not the best icon for that but I suppose it's differentiated from the file system version, if I read them both the same I might be confused, but not sure why they selected cog!!!

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by m463 »

orion7 wrote: post #39

I use Linux at home and MacOS at work; I am quite fond of every visual change in Tahoe with sole the exception of the obscenely large radius rounded window corners which make no sense on a rectangular screen and make resizing windows a relatively slow and arduous task. I really wish they could be disabled.

arguably rounded corners have been an apple brand-image thing for a long time, like the icons on ios.

I kind of wonder if this is like overdoing your watch logo stuff like in this article: https://paulgraham.com/brandage.html

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by spijdar »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #28
andy_ppp wrote: post #6

Usually I like Apple’s OS updates but Tahoe is absolutely awful from the glass to the noddy sizing of everything. MacOS does not have to harmonise with VisionOS at all and it’s been a disaster for macOS to try.

I don't know, I always see this pattern with iOS or MacOS releases. Everyone piles on at the time. I've actually quite enjoyed some design changes in Tahoe, and looking at older versions of MacOS just looks old fashioned once you're used to them.

I'm sure this is true, and that there will always be a (likely disproportionately) loud group of complainers, many of whom will forget about their complaints. I haven't really publicly complained about Tahoe before, and I don't intend on whining about it again. But...

It's fine. I'm not going to rail about how it's unusable, or say that it makes me want to gouge out my eyes, or whatever. But it's enough to dissuade me from ever wanting to buy another Mac, if I have the option of using a desktop Linux system.

That's a pretty big caveat. But those curved window borders and the rounded widgets in e.g. the settings menu are kind of awful. Not unusable. But every time I open a terminal and I deal with the choice of either having obscene padding around my content or seeing a few pixels of my prompt's corners shaved off, I get just a little more irritated, and a little less likely to pick up my Macbook the next time I'm deciding which device to use.

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by hbn »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #28
andy_ppp wrote: post #6

Usually I like Apple’s OS updates but Tahoe is absolutely awful from the glass to the noddy sizing of everything. MacOS does not have to harmonise with VisionOS at all and it’s been a disaster for macOS to try.

I don't know, I always see this pattern with iOS or MacOS releases. Everyone piles on at the time. I've actually quite enjoyed some design changes in Tahoe, and looking at older versions of MacOS just looks old fashioned once you're used to them.

Almost every update I'm skeptical at first and then after a while I see a screenshot of the old UI and think "how did I ever use that?"

Tahoe I've been using since it came out and every time I see a screenshot of prior versions I think "wow it used to look so much better"

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by harha »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #28
andy_ppp wrote: post #6

Usually I like Apple’s OS updates but Tahoe is absolutely awful from the glass to the noddy sizing of everything. MacOS does not have to harmonise with VisionOS at all and it’s been a disaster for macOS to try.

I don't know, I always see this pattern with iOS or MacOS releases. Everyone piles on at the time. I've actually quite enjoyed some design changes in Tahoe, and looking at older versions of MacOS just looks old fashioned once you're used to them.

I got a Mac mini and was very positively surprised that it still ran the older version. I can use the size setting I'm comfortable with in the display menu. When I use Tahoe, I need to make the setting smaller to have a reasonable amount of apps open, but then it's uncomfortable to read.

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by username223 »

0xFEE1DEAD wrote: post #4
john_alan wrote: post #2

Great now just need the same for the window corners and ridiculous Finder overlays.

Exactly. I blame apple for making me run an old macOS version because I don't want to look at this ugly mess they've created. I've been running macOS since 2008, and unless they manage to turn things around, my next laptop won't be an apple.

> unless they manage to turn things around, my next laptop won't be an apple.

Meh. I ran Linux on a PowerBook back in the day, because Apple made the best hardware and behind-the-times software, before deciding that Mac OS X was "Unix with decent office software" and wholesale switching. I'm fine going back to FVWM on a MacBook if macOS 27 is as bad as 26.

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by brailsafe »

spijdar wrote: post #43
Synaesthesia wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know, I always see this pattern with iOS or MacOS releases. Everyone piles on at the time. I've actually quite enjoyed some design changes in Tahoe, and looking at older versions of MacOS just looks old fashioned once you're used to them.

I'm sure this is true, and that there will always be a (likely disproportionately) loud group of complainers, many of whom will forget about their complaints. I haven't really publicly complained about Tahoe before, and I don't intend on whining about it again. But... It's fine. I'm not going to rail about how it's unusable, or say that it makes me want to gouge out my eyes, or whatever. But it's enough to dissuade m…

Good UI for tools, physical or digitial, should reduce the friction between picking it up and using it for something, that's the problem at the core of design. With the small caveat that sometimes technically good but perhaps unethical design solves stupid business problems well, like deliberately making chairs uncomfortable to keep traffic moving through a busy cafe, or making anti-homeless benches, design should not dissuade you from using something you purchased to solve other problems; it's unprincipled.

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by gib444 »

jayrot wrote: post #32
chkhd wrote: post #30

After a good decade of Mac Tahoe made me go back to Linux + tiling WM for my main machine. I just could not stand the awful mess anymore. Result? inner peace. It is so calm here, and everything is so familiar and fast. And the MBP hardware seems to be getting shittier too :/ have trackpad issues on both my latest personal and work M4 MBPs.

I strongly disagree. Tahoe is horrible but Mac hardware is terrific. Have you seen a Neo? I think Apple is hitting it out of the park (falling behind in many other areas)

They're referring to reliability btw

Re: Hide macOS Tahoe's Menu Icons

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Post by saagarjha »

nayroclade wrote: post #34
9dev wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is probably exactly what happened. Reportedly Apple is all-in on Claude across the board.

Nah, blaming AI is too easy. It's more likely that Apple's design culture got rotted out under Alan Dye https://daringfireball.net/2025/12/bad_dye_job Now that Dye is gone, I still hold out hope that Apple will change direction and start fixing their UI. But that fact that it got this bad in the first place implies things are seriously broken at a senior leadership level.

What makes you think that things aren't bad under him?
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