And now they are creeping into open source projects too. What once was thought as the bastion of absolute freedom from the state
Store birth date in systemd for age verification
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#42This developer should be blacklisted from all open source projects, permanently.
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#43"protecting" children by providing specific ages to data harvesters. as per usual, liberal policy doing the exact opposite thing they claim it does.
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#44This should be the time for open-source developers to use their common sense to decide whether we should push back. If California wants to create its own Protect the children operating system, it should bear the cost and responsibility for this alone, and not export any of the sketchy political agenda to the wider open source community.
It's the law. If you live in the United States, and a minor in California uses your OS that didn't check age, you could be liable for up to $2500 per occurrence. That can add up quickly if California schoolkids discover your OS does an end run around the law. When ruin is the alternative, compliance becomes non-negotiable.
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#45I cannot express how disappointed I am to see open source projects giving in to complying with age attestation laws. I feel like complying really undermines any first amendment arguments. Software is a first amendment protected form of expression, giving in before getting any actual threats from the state makes your participation seem voluntary. Systemd's participation puts the entire world into compliance with a Cal…
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#46It's scary how much global surveillance is closing in to become a reality with states passing these lesgilations, in the name of "protecting children", but it just serves to collect citizent personal data... And now they are creeping into open source projects too. What once was thought as the bastion of absolute freedom from the state
It is indeed scary is how compliant the open-source projects have become to the "governmental overlords". Where has the hacker spirit gone?
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#47I cannot express how disappointed I am to see open source projects giving in to complying with age attestation laws. I feel like complying really undermines any first amendment arguments. Software is a first amendment protected form of expression, giving in before getting any actual threats from the state makes your participation seem voluntary. Systemd's participation puts the entire world into compliance with a Cal…
BSDs don’t use SystemD, neither do some distros. After they have been exposed here as collaborators I suspect we will see freedom-respecting distros move away from them. I myself have been neutral to weakly positive on SystemD until now, as they put forward some decent solutions to longstanding problems, but from now on I intend to stop using their software entirely. As it turns out, the people who warned against “pr…
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
I doubt I can do the observation justice, my mind went there thinking 'a moment before the Unix Epoch' and the more... well-traveled meme: 'haha funny number [dropping the leading 19]' . Any number would've worked just as well, it's not significant. I really just wanted to express my participation in this, if at all, likely won't be in good faith. That said... an option for 'I could have declared an age/birth date bu…
> 'a moment before the Unix Epoch' OK, "I am so old that already lived before the UNIX epoch even started" (or a year which breaks systems that cannot handle times before the UNIX epoch) sounds plausible. :-)
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#49Will unincorporated distros who don't comply be illegal to use in the areas passing these laws? This isn't "obscenity" -- isn't there a first amendment argument for these projects?
There is a strong 1A argument, and one such law has already been defeated: https://netchoice.org/netchoice-wins-permanent-block-of-loui... Bernstein v. United States set a precedent that has not yet been overturned.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's the law. If you live in the United States, and a minor in California uses your OS that didn't check age, you could be liable for up to $2500 per occurrence. That can add up quickly if California schoolkids discover your OS does an end run around the law. When ruin is the alternative, compliance becomes non-negotiable.
> It's the law "There is no justice in following unjust laws." - Aaron Swartz (Guerilla Open Access Manifesto)