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OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by 7thpower »

cmiles8 wrote: post #15

There’s a strong chance the IPO window has passed. I just don’t see investors willing to jump in here given all the questions about the financial viability of AI. The bulk of those investing now are broadly just pumping cash into the fire to keep their prior investments from going to zero. We have hit a mass deceleration of what the current tech can do with transformers. The tech is also on a path to hyper-commoditiz…

You must be living on a different planet than me. Enterprises are just now seeing that these technologies can actually have an impact, and the companies do not have a discretionary cost cap the same way consumers/hobbyists do, so they will pay based on value.

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Post by KellyCriterion »

pipnonsense wrote: post #26
aurareturn wrote: post #12

One thing odd, maybe just to me, is why OpenAI has been stuffing its ranks with former Facebookers who are known to juice growth, find edges, and keep people addicted. They have little background in getting enterprises to buy into a product. Simo herself ran the Facebook app. That organization’s genius is consumer engagement: behavioral hooks, dopamine loops, the relentless optimization of the feed. You can see that…

So that’s why I am getting clickbaity last sentences in every response now at ChatGPT. Things like ”If you want, I can also show a very fast Photoshop-style trick in Krita that lets you drag-copy an area in one step (without copy/paste). It’s hidden but extremely useful.” Every single chat now has it. Not only the conversational prompt with “I can continue talking about this”, but very clickbaity terms like: almost n…

I find -again- Claude (web) here outstanding & very comfortable:

In most of my discussions throughout the day, it doesnt ask any "follow up" questions at the end. Very often it says thingslike: "you have two options: A - ..... and B - while the one includes X and the other Y..."

But this is was OP underlined: Claude is popular amongst businesses, most "non-tech" people dont even know that it exists.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by jrjeksjd8d »

The quoted revenue numbers seem insane, but I guess it's the result of corporate deals where every developer seat is hundreds of dollars a month?

My job has been publicly promoting who's on top of the "AI use dashboard" while our whole product falls apart. Surely this house of cards has to collapse at some point, better get public money before it does.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by badgersnake »

cmiles8 wrote: post #15

There’s a strong chance the IPO window has passed. I just don’t see investors willing to jump in here given all the questions about the financial viability of AI. The bulk of those investing now are broadly just pumping cash into the fire to keep their prior investments from going to zero. We have hit a mass deceleration of what the current tech can do with transformers. The tech is also on a path to hyper-commoditiz…

I would expect a lot of smart money to flow out of the Nasdaq-100 trackers in anticipation of this grift.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by DaedalusII »

newsclues wrote: post #24
cmiles8 wrote: post #15

There’s a strong chance the IPO window has passed. I just don’t see investors willing to jump in here given all the questions about the financial viability of AI. The bulk of those investing now are broadly just pumping cash into the fire to keep their prior investments from going to zero. We have hit a mass deceleration of what the current tech can do with transformers. The tech is also on a path to hyper-commoditiz…

Unless the play is the fleece retail investors

there arent enough retail investors in the world to buy this ipo

but they will get a lot of flow from sovereign wealth fund and pensions

you might wonder why anthropic spend time in australia, a country with less economy than canada and almost no industry at all? likely because it has very big pension fund pool to buy their ipo

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by dostick »

buzzy_hacker wrote: post #33
pipnonsense wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So that’s why I am getting clickbaity last sentences in every response now at ChatGPT. Things like ”If you want, I can also show a very fast Photoshop-style trick in Krita that lets you drag-copy an area in one step (without copy/paste). It’s hidden but extremely useful.” Every single chat now has it. Not only the conversational prompt with “I can continue talking about this”, but very clickbaity terms like: almost n…

Same here. “Do you want the one useful tip related to this topic that most people miss? It’s quite surprising.” If it were so useful, just tell me in the first place! If you say “Yes” then it’s usually just a regurgitation of your prior conversation, not actually new information. This immediately smelled of engagement bait as soon as the pattern started recently. It’s omnipresent and annoying.

Yes, ChatGPT just recently started to add these engagement phrased follow-ups; “If you want, I can also show you one very common sign people miss that tells you…”

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by llm_nerd »

sonink wrote: post #5

From the article: "You can see that in the recent iterations of ChatGPT. It has become such a sycophant, and creates answers and options, that you end up engaging with it. That’s juicing growth. Facebook style." This is something I relalized lately. ChatGPT is juicing growth Facebook style. The last time, I asked it a medical question, it answered the question, but ended the answer with something like "Can I tell you…

Gemini does the same thing. For every question it looks to extend the conversation into natural follow-up questions, always ending a response with "Would you like to know more about {some important aspect of the answer}?"

And...I don't see it as a bad thing. It's trying to encourage use of the tool by reducing the friction to continued conversations, making it an ordinary part of your life by proving that it provides value. It's similar to Netflix telling you other shows you might like because they want to continue providing value to justify the subscription.

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by deanc »

sanitycheck wrote: post #32
deanc wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI is ubiquitous to the point where it's permeating almost every desk job in the world. Even those who don't work are using AI to help them find work, research health problems, ask questions about their daily life. I can't think of anything else since the invention of the internet that has had this much of an impact on people's lives. People will have to pay for this. I don't see it being free for long other than a f…

Anecdotally I know approximately zero 'normal' (non-tech) people who are intentionally using generative AI, several who have been badly misled by Google's AI summaries, and quite a few who are vehemently anti-AI (usually artists and writers). (Except when mandated by their employers, which nobody is happy about or finds particularly useful.)

Every single person I know outside of my profession is using it, including all relatives of all ages. Even if it's at the top of the google search results :)

Re: OpenAI Has New Focus (on the IPO)

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Post by pera »

cmiles8 wrote: post #15

There’s a strong chance the IPO window has passed. I just don’t see investors willing to jump in here given all the questions about the financial viability of AI. The bulk of those investing now are broadly just pumping cash into the fire to keep their prior investments from going to zero. We have hit a mass deceleration of what the current tech can do with transformers. The tech is also on a path to hyper-commoditiz…

The Private Equity world already has a solution for this:

Nasdaq's Shame

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47392550

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