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Re: Too Much Color

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Post by majormajor »

bee_rider wrote: post #22
cratermoon wrote: post #2

What's My JND? 0.0089 Can you beat it? https://www.keithcirkel.co.uk/whats-my-jnd/?r=A30iKP__7_Hb #WhatsMyJND

.0037. IIRC it is possible to get a better score by looking around the screen, your peripheral vision might be somehow more sensitive. I can see what they mean about .02 though. If I weren’t specifically looking for difference that’s where the colors become less noticeable.

Looking around if you have an LCD also helps compensate for colors shifting off-axis.

Re: Too Much Color

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Post by krsw »

drcongo wrote: post #29
esperent wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

0.0032 I'm on a Vivo X300 pro in a dim room, max brightness. Some of these looked impossible but then suddenly I'd see the line. https://www.keithcirkel.co.uk/whats-my-jnd/ #WhatsMyJND

Same score here on my MBP with an absolutely filthy screen. Reckon I could top the leaderboard if I cleaned it.

Same score and setup. Overhead lights were messing with me a bit as well as the vignetting in the browser. I wanna get sub 0.0030 now

Re: Too Much Color

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Post by quantummagic »

Very interesting article, and the color picker is exceptionally revealing. As for the challenge, it stopped working in Firefox after the first half dozen examples; but on Chromium I got a decent .0042 Fun!

Re: Too Much Color

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Post by tracker1 »

cratermoon wrote: post #2

What's My JND? 0.0089 Can you beat it? https://www.keithcirkel.co.uk/whats-my-jnd/?r=A30iKP__7_Hb #WhatsMyJND

I'm afraid to find out at this point... retinal damage combined with cataracts that I'm waiting to have a job with medical insurance to take care of... I used to be in the top 0.001% for color detection, now I know I'm very far from it. Especially towards dark and light brightness.

In the early 00's, I used two pro grade NEC flat panel monitors... they weighed a lot... my desk at that time had a permanent bow in the middle. It was around 2008 or so when I'd moved them a few times in a year and a half and decided to switch to flat panels... It became very clear to me around that time, that most people really didn't care about color accuracy in designs. Couldn't tell you how often I'd get "it doesn't look like our printed logo" only to adjust their monitor settings and voiala. Even then.

LCD flat panels are much easier to move around without killing your back. OLED is pretty amazing, but I've got to turn my brighness down a bit to make it tolerable... and I just about have to use dark mode. But there aren't many options in the 45" 3440x1440 display range, which is where I'm most comfortable today.

Re: Too Much Color

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Post by rXwubXUGAm »

rXwubXUGAm wrote: post #23
cratermoon wrote: post #2

What's My JND? 0.0089 Can you beat it? https://www.keithcirkel.co.uk/whats-my-jnd/?r=A30iKP__7_Hb #WhatsMyJND

I got a 0.0035. I'm on a Dell U2724D monitor which is supposed to have decent color accuracy and I cranked up the brightness and contrast to a maximum so I'm sure that helped a somewhat. I also noticed squinting and closing my eyes for a bit sometimes helped when I felt stuck. "Genuinely remarkable. You sailed past the theoretical human limit like it owed you money. I'd accuse you of cheating but I don't actually kno…

Replying to myself. I also tried this with both my Samsung S25+ phone and LG G5 TV and repeatedly scored in the 0.003-0.005 range on both so it doesn't seem like the display makes that much of a difference for me.

Re: Too Much Color

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Post by jaen »

cratermoon wrote: post #2

What's My JND? 0.0089 Can you beat it? https://www.keithcirkel.co.uk/whats-my-jnd/?r=A30iKP__7_Hb #WhatsMyJND

Was fun and kind of meditative locking in like that – I noticed that the anti-glare coating on my screen introduces a visibly larger Δ than the later stages of the game (kind of a dithered "cloud" noise), making it quite a challenge. 0.0021 oneshot.

Re: Too Much Color

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Post by altairprime »

bhaak wrote: post #28

He’s talking about minifying CSS colors and I’m not sure if it is what I think it is. Do CSS minifier really adjust the colors in the CSS files to get better compression rates or to reduce the number of rules in the CSS?

The author’s minifier now does so, yes. I think you’d have to research further to decide if they’re the first to do so or not.

Re: Too Much Color

#49

Post by marcosdumay »

Sharlin wrote: post #33

Eight bits of precision should be enough for everybody. (It both is and isn't, depending on the use case, but I'm pretty sure nobody's design needs to make a difference between #123456 and #123457.)

Yes. The claim that you don't need more than 3 decimal places is laughable. Your artificial design doesn't need decimal points. At all. You probably can do even better by ignoring the last 4 bits completely.

That said, the article is very interesting, and that claim applies on different contexts. It's just aimed at the wrong one.

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