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Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Verification _of what_ though? The OP article makes a lot of claims. Your own link says the car was a legit target for 'speeding at' troops, which completely opposes much of the BBC article.

Just because the IDF issued its "justification" doesn't mean it is. As we know from Gaza, there is always a justification. Here is a good description from the New York Times: "Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him in a month and a half when he came home to Tammun, in the West Bank, from his construction job in Israel late on Friday to spend the last few days of Ramadan with his family. On Saturday…

I haven't sided with the IDF account, I've said you're overstating the number of facts that "both sides agree on" as a proxy for what's verifiable.

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Zionism is the idea that the Jewish people deserve a national state. Being anti-Zionist is equivalent to wanting Israel to not exist as a national state.

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My understanding if you read the Israeli news articles is that the justification is that the car was going fast: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-... Given that the IDF involved were undercover agents (according to the reports), it seems unlikely that this family knew that driving fast would get them killed.

From the article, an eyewitness account:

> He told us the family car had just turned left into his street, facing uphill, and had come to a complete halt before any shots were fired, contradicting the Israeli army account. I asked if he had heard any warnings given by the Israeli forces, or any warning shots fired. "No, nothing," he said. "The firing directly targeted the car. I just heard the woman in the car screaming. The little kids were crying before they were killed."

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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For those wondering, it is verifiable story, it is covered as fact in Israeli newspapers:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-...

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/p7mq5k5bs

The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe.

The New York Times describes it as such:

"Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him in a month and a half when he came home to Tammun, in the West Bank, from his construction job in Israel late on Friday to spend the last few days of Ramadan with his family.

On Saturday night, the boys persuaded him to take them out for a drive. Eid al-Fitr, the end of Ramadan, was coming, so there were new clothes to buy. The day’s fast had been broken, so there were sweets to be had, too.

They picked up fried doughnut holes in Tubas, saving them for later, but the clothing shop they went to in Nablus was closed. It was already past midnight, so they headed back to Tammun: Khaled, 11, the oldest, in the back with Mustafa, 8, and Muhammad, 5. Othman, 6, blind and incapable of walking or feeding himself, was in his mother’s lap in front.

As they rounded a corner slowly, a few minutes from home, young Khaled and Mustafa recounted on Sunday, their mother, Waad, 35, asked her husband to pull over and take Othman from her so she could get something from her bag on the floor. Suddenly, the boys said, they saw laser pointers shining on their family from every direction, heard their mother scream, heard their father say “God is great” — and then heard a deafening fusillade of gunfire."

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/15/world/middleeast/palestin...

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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It’s an interesting look into HN.

Charitably, this is an astroturf that accumulated 200+ upvotes in about 20 minutes, which I suspect is highly irregular for HN. Along, with a very clear concerted effort to quickly downvote anyone pointing out this is isn’t HN. If this is the case, what is HN admin doing about it?

Less charitably, HN is not where hackers hang out anymore. The hackers have moved on and HN is now this.

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