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Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by Aurornis »

bfrog wrote: post #13

Funnily it probably runs Windows better than the typical corporate spyware burdened x86 laptop.

Every thread about Windows on Hacker News includes claims about apps taking 30 seconds to launch, web pages taking 20 seconds to load, simple applications being unusable, and other extreme performance problems. These are puzzling for anyone (like me) who uses Windows at home without all of these extreme performance problems.

That was until I realized how many reports are coming from people talking about their work laptops loaded with endpoint management and security software. Some of those endpoint control solutions are so heavy that the laptop feels like you've traveled back in time 15 years and you're using a mechanical hard drive.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by TiredOfLife »

joe_mamba wrote: post #33
bfrog wrote: post #13

Funnily it probably runs Windows better than the typical corporate spyware burdened x86 laptop.

Wouldn't corporate spyware equally burden the NEO? Especially more give the 8GB of RAM vs 16+ on X64 laptops? Chrome, Teams, IDEs, websites etc are equally bloated on both platforms.

The cpu in Neo is 2-3 times faster.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by joe_mamba »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #42
joe_mamba wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't corporate spyware equally burden the NEO? Especially more give the 8GB of RAM vs 16+ on X64 laptops? Chrome, Teams, IDEs, websites etc are equally bloated on both platforms.

The cpu in Neo is 2-3 times faster.

My (former) corpo HP laptop with 16GB RAM had 75% RAM used at idle after a fresh boot with Outlook, Teams and all the copro shit running in the background. So the 8GB NEO CPU will spend its time swapping data from ram to disk versus the 16GB+ ones, given both being filled with corporate spyware and same heavy use cases.

Also it isn't 2-3x faster, stop with the made up nonsense please. Just checked and my 3 year old AMD laptop is on par with the NEO geekbench score I found online (slower in single core but faster in multi core), not 2-3x slower.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by Someone1234 »

If Apple continues with the budget Neo brand into a 12 GB iteration, I can see this becoming more realistic (rather than a novelty). That being said, Parallels may need to review its licensing with a budget tier in mind. Few will buy a cheap computer and then pay what Parallels charges for a license (regardless if one-time or subscription).

They need to introduce something below the Standard license targeting the Neo. What I'd personally consider is:

- Standard gets 16 GB vRAM (to perfectly target the base MacBook Air). But leave it at 4-6 vCPUs to not compete with the Pro (still for general computing, not power-users)

- New "Lite" tier with 8 GB vRAM max for the Neo (4 vCPUs). Increasing to 12 GB vRAM if the Neo does.

Then you target a $89 price point one-time-purchase for the "Lite" tier. Essentially three plans, targeting your three major demographics: budget, standard, and pro/power-user.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by torben-friis »

abnercoimbre wrote: post #26
torben-friis wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t basically m1 air equivalent in specs? I’ve got that one and I’m yet to feel limited.

Always excited to hear about fellow M1 users. I’m not limited in the slightest. 5-6 years strong now?

Yeah, honestly not even counting. The only reason I even consider moving is that I dislike Tahoe and I know eventually I won’t be able to stall the update; hardware wise it doesn’t even cross my mind.

I have a current gen MacBook Pro for work configured with stupid amounts of ram and I feel no difference in terms of fluidity at all.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by the_real_cher »

bombcar wrote: post #6
the_real_cher wrote: post #4

does that mean since this is the iPhone 16 cpu, by proxy the iPhone 16 can also run Windows in a virtual machine?

Maybe/maybe not (we don't know how identical the A18 chip is to what shipped in the iPhone) - but it does determine that the virtualization stuff that was added to the M1 (in the era of the A14) has now moved over to the A series, at least enough to support macOS.

Thats pretty cool.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by kyriakos »

bfrog wrote: post #13

Funnily it probably runs Windows better than the typical corporate spyware burdened x86 laptop.

corporate laptops is the key here. take 2 identical laptops one with and one without the spyware - its night and day in both performance and battery life.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by toast0 »

Aurornis wrote: post #41
bfrog wrote: post #13

Funnily it probably runs Windows better than the typical corporate spyware burdened x86 laptop.

Every thread about Windows on Hacker News includes claims about apps taking 30 seconds to launch, web pages taking 20 seconds to load, simple applications being unusable, and other extreme performance problems. These are puzzling for anyone (like me) who uses Windows at home without all of these extreme performance problems. That was until I realized how many reports are coming from people talking about their work la…

Corporate spyware is pretty nasty, regardless of platform. When I was at FB, they had something that forced a kernel module that was incompatible with the next big OS release; and I had accidentally disabled the FB spyware scripts. I set /etc/hosts to immutable because I was tired of them fucking with it ... didn't realize that's why things were better for the next 3 months, until I did the major update and I had to fix things from safe mode ... where everything only barely works.

Microsoft also puts a lot of crap into a default install that you may want to disable. Windows 11 with some judicious policy editor settings isn't so awful.

Re: Parallels confirms MacBook Neo can run Windows in a virtual machine

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Post by asimovDev »

nazgulsenpai wrote: post #16
bfrog wrote: post #13

Funnily it probably runs Windows better than the typical corporate spyware burdened x86 laptop.

Took 6 minutes from power button to login prompt this morning. Probably even longer from login responsive desktop. So yes, probably!

what? on a semi modern CPU and a SATA / M2 SSD?? My Vista laptop on a spinning drive took that long to boot I am pretty sure. I am flabbergasted if this is true
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