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E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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This is such misdirection. Your car if new enough, IS reporting its diagnostics including GPS via cell. All the time. This isn’t exactly personally identifiable so they get away with it just fine. This is unrelated to the microphones and assistance systems.

Which is exactly my point. Cars are reporting on you, but tying that to remote assistance is disingenuous.

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Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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It could be a move to have parity with TikTok, where they claim it’s for safety reasons. I’ve been seeing advertisements for Instagram touting their child/teen protection features. Seems like they’re really trying to beat the allegations that Instagram is bad for children’s health. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47241817

It's bad for EVERYONE's health. Try to limit your usage and you'll feel better. I promise you'll feel better.

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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It could be a move to have parity with TikTok, where they claim it’s for safety reasons. I’ve been seeing advertisements for Instagram touting their child/teen protection features. Seems like they’re really trying to beat the allegations that Instagram is bad for children’s health. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47241817

The sad part is, Instagram is exceptionally damaging to kids for a disjoint set of reasons.

As is social media in general. I highly recommend reading the Anxious Generation

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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There's a general trend right now against privacy and in a more general sense against freedom. More and more companies are on board with it. I'm not sure if anyone in HN has any useful advice in this regard. I feel like I don't know what to do about the internet for the next 5-10 years. Does this particular measure matter very much? No, but it's another brick in the wall.

i don't understand this doomer mentality regarding the internet.

internet is a service that you choose what to engage and how. don't like a platform? find another, build it or stop using it altogether.

personally, i find these things really great has it helps nudge people into the more decentralized web. a few years ago those who were pushing for privacy respecting apps and platforms were deemed too paranoid.

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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And also so employees of said companies can spy on drivers and make fun of them: https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens...

Which just shows that consumers don't care. Tesla's camera surveillance wasn't exactly secret.

Equating what companies get away with, as the clear signal to what consumers care about.

And billionaires and nine-day old alts wonder why they need a bunker.

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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So apparently this was opt-in, much like Telegram's OTR chat feature, and thus completely different than WhatsApp where it has always been default. Not a good look regardless, but the few who went into chat settings for a specific person to turn this on in the first place will likely just switch to WhatsApp or another app rather than continue without it.

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Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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Which is exactly my point. Cars are reporting on you, but tying that to remote assistance is disingenuous.

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Happy to read your thoughts, can you elaborate on this?

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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On the other hand Messenger has moved to only supporting e2ee chats, wonder why the difference.

To me, Instagram is a public platform at its core, where people publish things for the whole world to see. Private messages are just a secondary feature. It is like having a conversation in a restaurant, where the guy at the next table can listen to everything, but usually doesn't. Good enough for planning a surprise party, not for truly sensitive information. Kind of like private messages in Reddit, Discord, etc...…

Sure, but if you already have e2ee, it takes work to remove it... why invest the time to do that?

Re: E2E encrypted messaging on Instagram will no longer be supported after 8 May

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There's a general trend right now against privacy and in a more general sense against freedom. More and more companies are on board with it. I'm not sure if anyone in HN has any useful advice in this regard. I feel like I don't know what to do about the internet for the next 5-10 years. Does this particular measure matter very much? No, but it's another brick in the wall.

As a California resident I request to download my personal data from every service I can, and I’m constantly surprised. We each have scores for all kinds of things. The local power company keeps a “Green Ideology” score on me.
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