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I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Post by jamilton »

dyauspitr wrote: post #26
armchairhacker wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI slop > The uncomfortable truth is that... > ...that the real question isn't... > Corporate resistance...introduces friction at the infrastructure layer And check comment history ( https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=julius_eth_dev ) Sometime yesterday, or further back, someone has decided to run a bot experiment ( https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=patchnull , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079…

I mean almost certainly but what do the sentences you’ve highlighted have to do with that.

They're all pretty common AI-isms.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Post by xvector »

telotortium wrote: post #35

One thing I’ve never heard a good answer to: If Anthropic is a supplier not to the Department of Defense itself, but to Palantir, why isn’t supply chain risk the proper designation (assuming the government’s concerns with Anthropic having authority over military missions is valid)? As for whether code written with Claude Code should be so considered - if it’s just code that is subject to human review, I would argue t…

> why isn’t supply chain risk the proper designation

Because you can't designate a company a SCR because you don't like the contract you signed with them.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Post by ang_cire »

The author is naive.

> The whole background of this AI conversation is that we’re in a race with China, and we have to win. But what is the reason we want America to win the AI race? It’s because we want to make sure free open societies can defend themselves. We don’t want the winner of the AI race to be a government which operates on the principle that there is no such thing as a truly private company or a private citizen.

In the US currently, there are private citizens, and there are 'not-the-1%' citizens, where a Kavanaugh stop is legal, your voter information may be (or may have already been) seized by the DoJ or FBI, you may be tracked by out of state or federal agents on ALPRs with no warrant, for any reason, and where attending a legal protest may have your biometrics added to a database of potential domestic terrorists.

Or maybe your tax money will just be used to blow up unidentified boaters or bomb girls' schools and homes, and you'll get no say in whether that's the case because the elected body that is there to issue a declaration of war (or not) as representatives of you, has abdicated that power to a cabinet of unelected white nationalists.

But go off about how we're such a better country that believes in freedom and goodness.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Post by ceroxylon »

zer00eyz wrote: post #6

> But within 20 years, 99% of the workforce in the military, the government, and the private sector will be AIs. I haven't seen this much hype and hopium since the dot com boom. The whole open AI -> Anthropic saga just reeks of the same evolution of Viant/Scient. Look we have an amazing tool, but it has some fundamental shortcomings that the industry seems to want to burry its head in the sand about. The moment the h…

I think a lot of Dwarkesh's mentality about AI being inevitable / ubiquitous comes from the same part of him that thinks that artificial things are "good enough", e.g. the way he allows his production team to use fake plastic plants on set. Is he correct? I'm not sure, but I know there are at least a few people who notice the difference.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Post by awesome_dude »

epgui wrote: post #7

I really hate how people think LLMs == AI. An LLM can’t/shouldn’t be doing anything other than generating text.

I think that when some people talk about "AI" they have "AGI" in mind, and when others talk about "AI" they have "latest computer does the smarts" in mind.

I personally would prefer "AI" to be "AGI" but there's no point fighting the way people use language (see: every damned pedantic comment about English usage ever!! :-)

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ang_cire wrote: post #43

The author is naive. > The whole background of this AI conversation is that we’re in a race with China, and we have to win. But what is the reason we want America to win the AI race? It’s because we want to make sure free open societies can defend themselves. We don’t want the winner of the AI race to be a government which operates on the principle that there is no such thing as a truly private company or a private c…

> go off about how we're such a better country that believes in freedom and goodness

Better than China as a global model? Still, yes, probably. Potentially. Depends on how the next few years ago.

Even if America fails, I’d argue a global republic is a brighter potential future than a global dictatorship.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Post by telotortium »

xvector wrote: post #42
telotortium wrote: post #35

One thing I’ve never heard a good answer to: If Anthropic is a supplier not to the Department of Defense itself, but to Palantir, why isn’t supply chain risk the proper designation (assuming the government’s concerns with Anthropic having authority over military missions is valid)? As for whether code written with Claude Code should be so considered - if it’s just code that is subject to human review, I would argue t…

> why isn’t supply chain risk the proper designation Because you can't designate a company a SCR because you don't like the contract you signed with them.

But the DoD signed a contract with Palantir.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #36
naves wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon Musk – "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYXbuik3dgA

Thanks for the link because I can't stomach 3 hours of this. First phrase: "you're saving on energy by putting data centers in space". What? 2:08 "It's harder to scale on the ground than it is in space" what?

The argument is permitting and weather proofing are harder than lifting at certain values of scale for each. We’re not there right now. But if Starship pans out we’re at least damn close, particularly if solar-panel fabrication can be done from out-of-well silicates.
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