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I wonder to what extent propaganda played a role in disbelieving their claims. US propaganda is very strong on the US being the best, having the most advanced technology, and that nations like Russia and China are inferior to us. So it's totally plausible to me that agents in the CIA would fall for that same propaganda: this technology doesn't exist, because, if it did, we would have invented it.

Propaganda can galvanize, but propaganda can also lull.

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The schizophrenics are getting more reasonable by the day. They ARE listening through your phone. There might actually be a government vehicle following you without identification with intent to abduct (ICE), and now they might actually be tormenting you with invisible energy beams.

A common hallucination and delusion is that someone is beaming thoughts into the afflicted's head, causing some to believe that there are "voice to skull" devices deployed to torment them. Well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect

Relevant Wired: https://www.wired.com/2008/05/army-removes-pa/

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The schizophrenics are getting more reasonable by the day. They ARE listening through your phone. There might actually be a government vehicle following you without identification with intent to abduct (ICE), and now they might actually be tormenting you with invisible energy beams.

they are listening to your thoughts too while nerds think data center boom is all about AGI or at least better AI porn. no, it's about scaling up surveillance

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The schizophrenics are getting more reasonable by the day. They ARE listening through your phone. There might actually be a government vehicle following you without identification with intent to abduct (ICE), and now they might actually be tormenting you with invisible energy beams.

I am curious whether wearing a tin foil hat would prevent this attack.

no, tin foil hat would not prevent such attack. and shielding has to be grounded too

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The schizophrenics are getting more reasonable by the day. They ARE listening through your phone. There might actually be a government vehicle following you without identification with intent to abduct (ICE), and now they might actually be tormenting you with invisible energy beams.

A common hallucination and delusion is that someone is beaming thoughts into the afflicted's head, causing some to believe that there are "voice to skull" devices deployed to torment them. Well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect

James C. Lin work is even more compelling https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9366412 NASA deciphered thoughts back in 2003 https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20030018896 and DARPA budget of 2008 mentions "silent talk" https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fiscal_Year_2010_DAR... FMCW radars used to recognize your emotions https://ietresearch.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1049...

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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I've read reports about Havana Syndrome before and remain thoroughly unconvinced. The locations vary wildly, the symptoms vary wildly and can be explained by normal medical phenomena in a way Occam would find more agreeable. Look at their 'smoking gun' evidence here: >He tracked down an email, what he considers a receipt, for services provided to the Russian government by a member of Unit 29155 for "potential capabil…

according to James C. Lin: "A high-power microwave pulse-generated acoustic pressure wave initiated in the brain and reverberating inside the head could bolster the initial pressure, causing injury of brain matter. Thus, it is conceivable that the microwave auditory effect or the microwave pulse-induced pressure shock wave inside the head could become a potentially lethal or nonlethal weapon against animals and humans." https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9366412

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spent a lot of time (as a former lit PhD student with an interest in narrative and identity) paying attention to the Q-related (and adjacent) stories. On one hand, once folks are freed from orthodox thought, they might point out some very useful and interesting ideas about the world. On the other hand, (assuming I just haven't figure out how to observe astral-projecting bodies, lumerians, the long-term benefits of…

I was being sarcastic but i get your point. The trump admin is full of pedophiles but for years and years they were claiming they were going to unmask the “real” pedophiles. I meant that like qanon was talking about a massive conspiracy where pedophiles were running the gov. They are now though lol

Fair enough- that's a relatable feeling.

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#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was being sarcastic but i get your point. The trump admin is full of pedophiles but for years and years they were claiming they were going to unmask the “real” pedophiles. I meant that like qanon was talking about a massive conspiracy where pedophiles were running the gov. They are now though lol

Was anyone (besides cultists) under the impression that the man who would regularly walk into the Miss Teen USA pageant dressing rooms while young girls were undressing was anything other than a pedophile and pervert?

To take another sarcastic comment too literally-

I recall that most of my centrist Republican friends and more "conservative" liberal friends actually thought he was a run-of-the-mill sex pest. Most of those folks have such a cynical view of the folks in power that misogyny seems to be "normal".

I mean, the DNC keeps having Bill Clinton speak at stuff, so clearly they are okay with that kind of behavior.

My understanding is that that massive column at the center of "real (tm) adult US politics)" didn't think either of those guys were doing the truely horrific things pointed to in the Epstein documents.

As a person who has paid a lot of attention to these attitudes over the last 20 years, reun of the mill Democrats thinking DT is a pedophile is something that didn't start until after Nov 2024 and most of the GOP folks I know (because I have fewer friends among that caste every year) still think he's just a "normal" sex pest and not, like, raping 11-year-olds (which I think is closer to the truth).

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The schizophrenics are getting more reasonable by the day. They ARE listening through your phone. There might actually be a government vehicle following you without identification with intent to abduct (ICE), and now they might actually be tormenting you with invisible energy beams.

You’re hearing about more by the day.

That’s the only change.

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