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I don't know if my job will still exist in ten years

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Re: I don't know if my job will still exist in ten years

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In “Ask HN style”, let’s say that software engineering does go extinct in the next X years, what would you do? I’ve thought about psychology. I know LLMs can work as pseudo-therapists but I feel like that’s a field where the human connection / human element will remain important.

If software engineering goes extinct, a ton of other white-collar jobs will go with it, and we could be in an intractable depression.

There’s a reason AI is banned in Dune and Warhammer 40K

Re: I don't know if my job will still exist in ten years

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> Junior and mid-level engineers will suffer before I do

I wouldnt be so sure. They'll keep the people who can do what needs to be done with new tools. Current title is irrelevant.

In addition loosing a 400k tc vs. 2x 200ktc makes more sense if they are all prooompters and AI handlers anyway.

Re: I don't know if my job will still exist in ten years

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In “Ask HN style”, let’s say that software engineering does go extinct in the next X years, what would you do? I’ve thought about psychology. I know LLMs can work as pseudo-therapists but I feel like that’s a field where the human connection / human element will remain important.

Realistically, I would die. A condo costs $2500/month so I will either be homeless and freeze to death or be euthanized. Maybe I'm a contrarian but I don't think there's hope for anyone that doesn't control resources.

You would die rather than move somewhere cheaper? What an odd take. I live in the midwest and pay $700/mo for a perfectly fine apartment in a clean and safe suburb.

Re: I don't know if my job will still exist in ten years

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> It sucks. I miss feeling like my job was secure, ... The wheel of industry rolls forward and crushes everyone underneath it

i've been advocating for developers to unionize for years, and there'd always be a big group saying "we don't need a union". AI-based job displacement will do wonders for raising class consciousness when it's too late. the best time to unionize is when you don't need a union.

> AI-based job displacement will do wonders for raising class consciousness when it's too late.

You can’t raise class awareness in other professions that have been undergoing job displacement for decades. Good luck trying to do it among software engineers where self worth rides high and empathy is non existent. They will still be arguing on HN that unionization is a bad idea.

Re: I don't know if my job will still exist in ten years

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post #4

In “Ask HN style”, let’s say that software engineering does go extinct in the next X years, what would you do? I’ve thought about psychology. I know LLMs can work as pseudo-therapists but I feel like that’s a field where the human connection / human element will remain important.

Realistically, I would die. A condo costs $2500/month so I will either be homeless and freeze to death or be euthanized. Maybe I'm a contrarian but I don't think there's hope for anyone that doesn't control resources.

There is no way a condo would continue to cost $2500/mo in a world where there isn't a concentration of well-paid office jobs in that location.

Re: I don't know if my job will still exist in ten years

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post #4

In “Ask HN style”, let’s say that software engineering does go extinct in the next X years, what would you do? I’ve thought about psychology. I know LLMs can work as pseudo-therapists but I feel like that’s a field where the human connection / human element will remain important.

If software engineering goes extinct, a ton of other white-collar jobs will go with it, and we could be in an intractable depression.

No other profession has such a corpus of free training data available.

Re: I don't know if my job will still exist in ten years

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Out of curiosity I checked out the author’s resume and this is their current position. Oh the irony!! I built significant pieces of the Copilot onboarding, purchasing, billing and settings flow. For eight months I headed up the Copilot anti-abuse effort. I then led the launch of GitHub Models, and am now working on other Copilot projects.

No wonder GitHub is always collapsing every week. Tay.ai, Zoe and Copilot bots being deployed wrecking the platform being unable to fix infrastructure issues whilst the humans are just tweaking all the tiniest issues. They should instead focus on GitHub actions and improving the uptime of the whole platform first before doing anything AI.

Wherever you work, are there embarrassing experiences that your organization ships?

If so, why didn’t you personally fix them so that nobody could associate you as an individual with a broken CX?

If not, please let me know where to apply, because that sounds like a unicorn organization.

Humans in large groups do amazing and crappy things at the same time. Playing gotcha with someone’s resume is a shitty thing to do.

Re: I don't know if my job will still exist in ten years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? I mean in the end it is a political decision. We are used to infinite progress, infinite growth and infinite rationalization. But for what good? People have not become more free to pursuit their generic interests in Marx' sense but there's just more concentration in the hand of the capital while unemployment is growing. Weren't we better of to have less rationalization and have more meaningful work for people?

"Meaningful work" for work's sake, why? I have no desire to work in a farm or a factory when I can work from the peace of my own home without breaking my back. Not to mention the work that other people do too, like doctors and scientists, which directly positively impact my own life. If they were to say, let's not continue progressing, then that's not a world I'd want to live in.

It depends on what we define as progress. At times nuclear power was considered progress while it's no longer now (at least to that extent). Why couldn't we consider a society with less technology as progressive? Learning that less reliance on technology makes us more resilient as individuals and as a society. Obviously there are areas where we didn't want to downscale such as medical care. But there's a lot of technological progress that does not contribute much value to society in general but to concentrate wealth in the hand of a few people.

EDIT: also so-called "breaking your back" has the same effect as going to the gym. Sure I am aware that there are really back-breaking jobs and they should be helped by machines. But there's no rule to say that the helping machines need to to all of the work. A moderate amount of physical work is just beneficial to everyone.

Re: I don't know if my job will still exist in ten years

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post #4

In “Ask HN style”, let’s say that software engineering does go extinct in the next X years, what would you do? I’ve thought about psychology. I know LLMs can work as pseudo-therapists but I feel like that’s a field where the human connection / human element will remain important.

Whats the thing that is the Apple ][ of this new world? Get into that? Maybe ASIC design and programming. Not sure.
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