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Strikes in Middle East since 28th Feb in real time

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Re: Strikes in Middle East since 28th Feb in real time

#41

https://iran.liveuamap.com/ is a more human curated experience of pretty much the same thing (+ more), albeit not as flashy and a more traditional UI compared to the obviously LLM-generated UI + colorscheme.

I’m not seeing any simulations. It’s just a text feed?

Re: Strikes in Middle East since 28th Feb in real time

#42

"What fools we are to live in a generation for which war is a computer game for our children and just an interesting little Channel 4 news item" - Tony Benn, MP, in the UK parliament, speaking against a resolution authorizing bombing of Iraq in 1998 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfXmpJRZPYI

Yeah. The big men wage real wars, kill people. What do they expect from the children?

Re: Strikes in Middle East since 28th Feb in real time

#43
(A little offtopic?) but Is there anything that the general public can do to show their dissatisfaction with the war.

I hated Khamenei. He was a cruel dictator but the way the war is happening, the strikes are gonna impact the Iranian lives the most. They are stuck between a rock and cliff.

I am not a military guy but I could've either expected this 1 month ago when the protests were going on but the way this has happened, with bombings on girl schools somehow taking place by US/Israel. What has happened is that Khamenei has somehow become a martyr. Something unthinkable a month ago.

I know the world is being crazy mad nowadays but this seems to be the tipping point for me as the world escalates towards hot war.

I'd like to know if society at large or even politicians or anyone had a say in all of this. It all just happened all of a sudden.

I remember hearing the news of US attacking Iran on radio and I was geniunely shocked. Like, the only thing I was thinking was "Is this fucking gonna happen"

then Khamenei got killed. Once again, some were saying just a few days now and celebrating while others were critical that this isn't as easy as killing khamenei and the war is still left.

The way US has done this all, the key takeaway for most countries is to make their own nukes. Iran was negotiating for all its flaws to control nuclear but US striked it while also contradicting things it said a few months back.

If Iran truly had nuclear, US couldn't have done this so are we having the idea of make nukes to protect oneself which to me does feel like something which can be prevented, I am not sure.

Now, I am hearing news of a proper ground invasion becoming more and more likely and also Kurdish forces being given arms to do it too and the war streching to 5-8 weeks but I don't think that's the case especially when Israel is somehow having the say here saying that we will kill anyone who comes in power next to khamenei which makes anything like a venezuela style thing (which was still illegal mind you) just straight up impossible.

The world is heading up towards a cliff and it feels like we don't even have any say in it. Not even American citizens whose taxpayers are being used.

I just feel frustrated by geopolitics. I used to enjoy reading about geopolitics 1 year back but literally the past year of geopolitics have been so depressing. Like, I remember thinking a year back, this must be the lowest point but now I wonder that there can always be a more lower point.

At some point tho, we are bound to have global stability slowly get better. I just hope that its now rather than later otherwise if we go even more down on this slippery slope, then I don't know where we are headed. at this point, I don't even know where we are.

Re: Strikes in Middle East since 28th Feb in real time

#44

Why the hell is Iran bombing other middle eastern states, like UAE? I'm quite naive about these conflicts but it seems like whoever is in charge of the Iran military really has a death wish. I wouldn't be surprised if Iran is a parking lot by the end of the year at this rate.

Mostly bombing the airbases. And then went to bomb the oil infrastructure. Guess it is to show them that getting the US on your soil not only doesn’t give you protection but gives you bombs.

We will see how this plays out. Meanwhile gas is north of 1.6 CAD a litre in my city.

Re: Strikes in Middle East since 28th Feb in real time

#45

The creator of this dashboard is Israeli - given some of the questions about the sword/shield icons, labelling of countries as belligerents/targets etc. I felt it was relevant to state this. Not to mention selective information bias.

This is quite concerning. Your comment made me somehow wonder if the people of Israel seem to support this war and it turns out that the answer is sort of yes[0]

I remember Witold pilecki during these times although polish, he was the first person to report the allies about the atrocities happening within the holocaust which the allies thought were not even possible, they thought he was exaggerating, that there was no way that this level of atrocity can take place.

Only to see the nation torn up by that atrocity to be in the next few generations be the one supporting a war which has no end in sight, a war which is killing school children, civilians and so many more.

I just pray that the world can get better because I am worried for the jewish population because I am seeing hatred towards the group themselves online. Some of which don't want to do anything with the war and live normal lives, I just hope that they can use their voice to stand for what's right in terms of humanitarianism.

It's gonna be a cycle of hatred which breeds more hatred which is only gonna lead to pain. I hope that people of israel realize the option of peace too and protest against their govt. and I am hearing protests from the US side but not so much from the Israeli side. A world run on wars has no winners. People are also questioning how much US had a say in the war after Marco Rubio's statement and these wars are sadly gonna lead to more anti-semitism in the future affecting the normal jewish population the most.

I genuinely hope that in the future that, Israeli people can try to reflect on the whole situation and try to create an internal pressure to stop war.

Humanity can actually try to uplift itself but it seems that we are flailing downwards.

[0]: https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-most-jewish-israelis-supp...

Re: Strikes in Middle East since 28th Feb in real time

#46

The creator of this dashboard is Israeli - given some of the questions about the sword/shield icons, labelling of countries as belligerents/targets etc. I felt it was relevant to state this. Not to mention selective information bias.

This is quite concerning. Your comment made me somehow wonder if the people of Israel seem to support this war and it turns out that the answer is sort of yes[0] I remember Witold pilecki during these times although polish, he was the first person to report the allies about the atrocities happening within the holocaust which the allies thought were not even possible, they thought he was exaggerating, that there was n…

I'm Iranian (albeit Christian) and unfortunately.. Iranians _also_ support this war (specifically the Shia sect supporting the regime). As a matter of fact, they have been _praying_ for this.

Shia Muslims have a strong martyrdom culture in comparison to Sunnis. This is why assassination of Khamenei didn't do anything in terms of disruption. He was martyred during the holy month of Ramadan and they welcomed it. All US did was created another honorable martyr for them.

I know it's difficult for Westerners to grasp how someone could pray for their own death but this is what they do. Decapitating their leadership doesn't do much because the next guy just takes over.

30% of the population in IRAN is composed of these fanatics and they will gladly give up their lives for IRGC. In a country of 90M, that amounts to a lot of people. IRAN has very difficult terrain and IRGC has been preparing for this war for the past 30 years. They don't care about the lives of Iranians, US can bomb Tehran to hell and they will not care. They have nothing to lose and will gladly sacrifice innocent people.

The Shia's motto is: "Every day is Ashura, every land is Karbala" [0], [1]

I think this is going to be a difficult conflict for everyone.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashura [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karbala

Re: Strikes in Middle East since 28th Feb in real time

#47

The creator of this dashboard is Israeli - given some of the questions about the sword/shield icons, labelling of countries as belligerents/targets etc. I felt it was relevant to state this. Not to mention selective information bias.

This is quite concerning. Your comment made me somehow wonder if the people of Israel seem to support this war and it turns out that the answer is sort of yes[0] I remember Witold pilecki during these times although polish, he was the first person to report the allies about the atrocities happening within the holocaust which the allies thought were not even possible, they thought he was exaggerating, that there was n…

This is an incredibly ignorant comment. Iran isn’t Palestine and it’s a category error to project your feelings about Palestine into Iran. Iran’s attacks on Israel aren’t like Palestinians attacking a country that is occupying their territory. Iran is a sophisticated country that uses military action to further its own geopolitical interests. Iran has been attacking Israel—launching missiles and funding terrorists like Hezbollah—for decades.

Moreover, out of all the countries that attack Israel, Iran has the least reason to do so. Iran is a thousand miles away from Israel and has no security concerns from Israel’s existence. In fact, the two countries had peaceful relations for decades before the Islamic theocracy took over in 1979. Iran was the second Muslim majority country to recognize Israel’s sovereignty and the two countries had peaceful relations for decades.

Iran is getting attacked by Israel because it has chosen for decades to launch offensive attacks against Israel for no reason.

Re: Strikes in Middle East since 28th Feb in real time

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One of the more unintentionally depressing comments I have ever seen on HN, the first guess on the "purpose" of reporting on a war is to profit from it by gambling. Our society has gotten to a dark place.

what i find sad is a dashboard so that taxpayers can watch their money turning to murder in real time. the redeeming quality is that the information is extremely incomplete , lots of things happening we don't see or know about

>what i find sad is a dashboard so that taxpayers can watch their money turning to murder in real time.

The existence of a dashboard is not an inherent endorsement of that murder. It's easy to look at this dashboard as a critique of that murder even if that wasn't the intent of the author. However, your initial jump to assuming that this dashboard is more likely to serve a financial purpose does reveal an actual political ideology (although not necessarily your political ideology), a cold dehumanizing capitalistic ideology, the kind I would consider largely responsible for those murders.

Re: Strikes in Middle East since 28th Feb in real time

#50

The creator of this dashboard is Israeli - given some of the questions about the sword/shield icons, labelling of countries as belligerents/targets etc. I felt it was relevant to state this. Not to mention selective information bias.

Considering this is a joint operation by the US and Israel plus the plurality if not the majority of the users of HN being American, I wonder would you have felt the need to comment this if the creator was American?
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