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India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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The scary thing is that Indian juduciary is infamous for being incapable of tolerating any kind of criticism against it and not hesitating to put people in jail for "contempt" for just calling out corruption. Imagine the official courts of 1.4B+ people being run by such braindead narcissists, now unhindered with having to even pretend to do their jobs as they just offload everything to AI tools.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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In Australia, our universities are finding that a large proportion of Indian students have been using GenAI for cheating. Often they get away with it. I'm not saying that people other than Indian overseas students cheat, but it does seem more entrenched. I'd love to know why. It doesn't actually help in the long term!

>The number of international students studying in Australia totalled 833,041 for the January-October 2025 period

>The United States hosts the highest number of international students on record, with approximately 1.1 to 1.2 million

The US has 32% more students than Australia and 1121% more people. Imagine if the US took on 13 million foreign college students per year lol

It does help them in the long run, because it ensures they get to reside in australia. after 4 years they get permanent residence rights and benefits, etc

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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In Australia, our universities are finding that a large proportion of Indian students have been using GenAI for cheating. Often they get away with it. I'm not saying that people other than Indian overseas students cheat, but it does seem more entrenched. I'd love to know why. It doesn't actually help in the long term!

They are not there for the knowledge - knowledge is cheap and abundant. They are there for the credentials and subsequent potential access to offshore jobs.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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one should also consider that even with fake hallucinated AI situation, the productivity and correctness of the work produced by the culprit ( in general ) may still have been of higher quality then before AI regardless of the fails

Hard to believe when this judge apparently thought that outsourcing their — extremely confidential, sensitive, and important — work to a known unreliable tool was a good idea. And then further thought that they apparently did not even need to check the results.

Sound like extreme incompetence or laziness.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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There will be many more things like this and it’s an elephant in the room for the supposed mass replacement of people with AI. Some human still has to be accountable. Someone has to get fired / go to jail when something screws up. You can make humans more productive but for the foreseeable future you can’t take the human out of the loop to have an AI implementation that’s not a disaster/lawsuit waiting to happen. Tha…

Isn't just the issue stemming simply from not using the right tool? When the stakes are high and you should be checking details, the right tools are grounded Ai solutions like nouswise and notebooklm and not the general purpose chatbots that almost everyone knows they might hallucinate. I also do believe that this use case is definitely a low hanging fruit to automat a lot of manual work but it comes with new require…

Is this a solved problem using the right tools?

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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In Australia, our universities are finding that a large proportion of Indian students have been using GenAI for cheating. Often they get away with it. I'm not saying that people other than Indian overseas students cheat, but it does seem more entrenched. I'd love to know why. It doesn't actually help in the long term!

How unserious/serious are the universities? Heard of diploma mills in Canada taking international students, letting them spend most of their time waiting at coffee shops and award them MBAs so they can be full time waiters and citizens.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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In Australia, our universities are finding that a large proportion of Indian students have been using GenAI for cheating. Often they get away with it. I'm not saying that people other than Indian overseas students cheat, but it does seem more entrenched. I'd love to know why. It doesn't actually help in the long term!

I imagine even a slight impediment in terms of being able to parse and express yourself in a language that you don't know as well as your mother tongue makes LLM usage much more tantalizing.

And not knowing the language quite as well as native speakers would also make you more likely to be discovered as having used an LLM to do coursework.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Some human still has to be accountable. Someone has to get fired / go to jail when something screws up. The turning point will be when threatening an AI with being unplugged for screwing up works in motivating it to stop making things up. Some people will rightly point out that is kind of what the training process is already. If we go around this loop enough times it will get there.

You are making a lot of assumptions here. You assume, among other things, that AI has self-preservation drive, can be threatened, can be motivated, and above all that we know how to accomplish that and are already doing so. I would dispute all of that.

For now maybe not. (Maybe).

But just as evolution in nature, isn’t it likely that in the future the AIs that have a preservation drive are the ones that survive and proliferate? Seeing they optimize for their survival and proliferation, and not blindly what they were trained on.

I am not discounting this happening already, not by the LLMs necessarily being sentient but at least being intelligent enough to emulate sentience. It’s just that for now, humanity is in control of what AI models are being deployed.

Re: India's top court angry after junior judge cites fake AI-generated orders

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How many of these cases do we have to have before lawyers realise that they need to check that the things an LLM tells them are actually true?

What kind of AI is this that you constantly need a human to check its job? Do you think Jean-Luc Piccard had to constantly check the output of the Enterprise computer? No he didn't. If AI is not better than humans, then what the heck is the point? You might as well just use humans.
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