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Iran attacks RAF base in Cyprus, an EU country

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Re: Iran attacks RAF base in Cyprus, an EU country

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Post by Covenant0028 »

bluegatty wrote: post #37
specproc wrote: post #13

Iran has the right to defend itself.

This is North Korean logic. Who is Iran? The tiny minority of people with guns to everyone's heads? The entity acting right now is a small ruling clique presenting themselves as 'Iran'. A regime loses legitimacy to act when they don't have internal legitimacy - or does not act with legitimacy either. Iran is supporting massive conflicts in Yemen, and is building non-defensive weapons capabilities. That does not make…

> The tiny minority of people with guns to everyone's heads?

Yes, I am sure the patients in this hospital were holding guns to Trump's head. https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/3/2/baby-and-p...

And while we're speaking of people that hold guns to everyone's heads, there is one country that is waging war all over the world. It's govt also executed people in broad daylight for the crimes of taking their kid to school and helping a person beaten up by the administration's goons. Would you entertain the idea of similar airstrikes against the head of that country?

> Iran is supporting massive conflicts in Yemen, and is building non-defensive weapons capabilities.

You know who else is supporting that massive conflict in Yemen? The United States of America. https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/06/04/yemen-us-strikes-on-port...

> It's all shades of grey, but there are lighter and darker shades.

I'm guessing they correlate 100% with the shade of the skin of the people involved.

Re: Iran attacks RAF base in Cyprus, an EU country

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Post by bluegatty »

Covenant0028 wrote: post #41
bluegatty wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is North Korean logic. Who is Iran? The tiny minority of people with guns to everyone's heads? The entity acting right now is a small ruling clique presenting themselves as 'Iran'. A regime loses legitimacy to act when they don't have internal legitimacy - or does not act with legitimacy either. Iran is supporting massive conflicts in Yemen, and is building non-defensive weapons capabilities. That does not make…

> The tiny minority of people with guns to everyone's heads? Yes, I am sure the patients in this hospital were holding guns to Trump's head. https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/3/2/baby-and-p... And while we're speaking of people that hold guns to everyone's heads, there is one country that is waging war all over the world. It's govt also executed people in broad daylight for the crimes of taking their kid…

None of THIS rhetoric even responded to the quotes you highlighted.

You'll have to do better than calling people racist for no apparent reason.

If there is one tiny, little barely a sliver of a silver-lining out of all of this Trump insanity, is that we don't hear a lot of people getting called racist for being disagreeable anymore, there are real issues to deal with.

Re: Iran attacks RAF base in Cyprus, an EU country

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Post by Covenant0028 »

breppp wrote: post #30
derelicta wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which Republic are we talking about? The Islamic Republic or the western "republics"?

I am talking about the Islamic Republic setting up local mercenary forces in order to extract resources from the local government in Iraq and Lebanon. That's called Imperialism and was common among european powers in the 19th century

> in order to extract resources from the local government in Iraq and Lebanon.

How evil of them to do that. They should have known only the United States of America has the divine right to invade countries and extract their resources. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4grxzxjjd8o

> That's called Imperialism and was common among european powers in the 19th century

Fortunately, the USA does not want to revive such practices, as they indicated in this speech: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/marco-rubio-munich-t...

Re: Iran attacks RAF base in Cyprus, an EU country

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Post by specproc »

bluegatty wrote: post #37
specproc wrote: post #13

Iran has the right to defend itself.

This is North Korean logic. Who is Iran? The tiny minority of people with guns to everyone's heads? The entity acting right now is a small ruling clique presenting themselves as 'Iran'. A regime loses legitimacy to act when they don't have internal legitimacy - or does not act with legitimacy either. Iran is supporting massive conflicts in Yemen, and is building non-defensive weapons capabilities. That does not make…

A sovereign state has been attacked, in the middle of negotiations. Their leader has been assassinated, civilians murdered. What should they do?

They have every right to resist this criminal assault.

I really don't see where North Korea comes into it. My initial post was actually echoing what we hear in the UK every time Israel assaults its neighbours.

Re: Iran attacks RAF base in Cyprus, an EU country

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Post by breppp »

Covenant0028 wrote: post #43
breppp wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am talking about the Islamic Republic setting up local mercenary forces in order to extract resources from the local government in Iraq and Lebanon. That's called Imperialism and was common among european powers in the 19th century

> in order to extract resources from the local government in Iraq and Lebanon. How evil of them to do that. They should have known only the United States of America has the divine right to invade countries and extract their resources. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4grxzxjjd8o > That's called Imperialism and was common among european powers in the 19th century Fortunately, the USA does not want to revive such pra…

> How evil of them to do that. They should have known only the United States of America has the divine right to invade countries and extract their resources

Yes, OP was already saying Iran is free to act because the US is an imperial power. I was merely stating that he is conveniently ignoring Iran's imperialist behavior

Re: Iran attacks RAF base in Cyprus, an EU country

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Post by replooda »

andrewflnr wrote: post #17
breppp wrote: post #2

This comes after attacking US, French bases and civilian infrastructure in Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE as well as their close friends and mediators in Qatar and Oman

They're really determined to prove that they're the bad guys after all, huh?

Hard to compete with bombing female elementary schools.

Re: Iran attacks RAF base in Cyprus, an EU country

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Post by dizhn »

breppp wrote: post #6
dizhn wrote: post #3

Iran's communication specifically calls these bases foreign soil. and "reassures" the host countries that the attacks are not against them. In this case it would be UK soil.

How does Iran communication describe the attacking of Saudi ARAMCO oil facilities and hotels in Bahrain and Dubai?

I am not privy to the inner workings of sociopaths' brains but it might be because they are supplying fuel to the US bases, or the word "American" in the company name, or maybe they are mad that Saudi Arabia got Bill Burr cancelled.

Re: Iran attacks RAF base in Cyprus, an EU country

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Post by imtringued »

Covenant0028 wrote: post #41
bluegatty wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is North Korean logic. Who is Iran? The tiny minority of people with guns to everyone's heads? The entity acting right now is a small ruling clique presenting themselves as 'Iran'. A regime loses legitimacy to act when they don't have internal legitimacy - or does not act with legitimacy either. Iran is supporting massive conflicts in Yemen, and is building non-defensive weapons capabilities. That does not make…

> The tiny minority of people with guns to everyone's heads? Yes, I am sure the patients in this hospital were holding guns to Trump's head. https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/3/2/baby-and-p... And while we're speaking of people that hold guns to everyone's heads, there is one country that is waging war all over the world. It's govt also executed people in broad daylight for the crimes of taking their kid…

>And while we're speaking of people that hold guns to everyone's heads, there is one country that is waging war all over the world. It's govt also executed people in broad daylight

Isn't that Iran? Remember the mass killings of the protestors? 36000 intentional deaths (Iran) vs 50 possibly accidental deaths (USA) [0]. Even if the deaths in the US were mediated by a burning hatred with the fire of a thousand suns that could still only amount to a few thousand death equivalents in a country where more than three hundred million people live (USA) vs 93 million in Iran.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaths_in_ICE_detentio...

Re: Iran attacks RAF base in Cyprus, an EU country

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Post by roryirvine »

boruto wrote: post #4

> Cyprus, an EU country RAF base is on "sovereign British land", A vestige of colonialism. Technically not EU.

I see the headline's now been changed to "RAF base in Cyprus hit by drone strike"

The Telegraph is, of course, strongly anti-EU, so the original headline might well have been a form of shit-stirring - "look how weak the EU are being by not retaliating!", or something along those lines.

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