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Waymo blocking ambulance during deadly Austin shooting
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Re: Waymo blocking ambulance during deadly Austin shooting
#42We continue to inch closer to these dumb buckets costing someone their life. Hell, they may already have.
If you are to believe Waymo’s safety stats, they have less accidents/injuries per mile driven. But whether or not reducing injuries at a statistical level outweighs the downside of autonomous vehicles causing accidents (even at lower rates) is a bit of a dilemma.
The human side of those stats, whenever I've seen them presented next to self-driving car stats, has always been an aggregate of all human driving, a vast amount of which is in environments or conditions that Waymo doesn't operate in.
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#43Everyone is downvoted in the comments 80% are grey? Even the ones that sound perfectly reasonable? Upvoted one and it was still greyed out which makes me think there's more to it, but maybe I am missing something really obvious.
Re: Waymo blocking ambulance during deadly Austin shooting
#44My kneejerk, not thought through notion: why not require an emergency override protocol be builtin to road using robots? No thoughts on how this would work exactly, but it would let emergency workers move robot vehicles out of the way.
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#45I thought Lidar solved everything?
Re: Waymo blocking ambulance during deadly Austin shooting
#46Isn't it making an illegal u-turn over a double yellow line?
Kind of. The thing making it illegal is that it's blocking traffic in the process (and potentially missing some visibility requirement or something; it's hard to tell from just the video).
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#47We continue to inch closer to these dumb buckets costing someone their life. Hell, they may already have.
Human driven cars cost people their lives multiple times every day, though. So I don't think the calculation can be quite as simple as that. As self driving cars are rolled out I think each incident like this needs to be studied to see how avoidable it was, whether a human would have been able to resolve it, and what changes can be made. There are always going to be fuck ups at some level. The question is whether we’…
But in the case of self driving cars, who do we find at fault? Have we even answered that question? I mean did the Waymo car even get a ticket for blocking the ambulance?
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#48At the risk of sounding ignorant, why didn't the various police cruisers and even the ambulance itself just push the damn thing out of the way? That's what the push bars attached to the front of their vehicles are for.
A human police over eventually got into the drivers seat to move the car. They sat around for minutes before doing so. They could’ve gotten into it immediately.
But yea they absolutely could’ve also just slammed it and moved on too.
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#49Cars block the street all the time, there is ample place to pass the waymo car on the left in the opposing lane, yet those SUV driving humans don't care to move out of the way either, and police just blocks the maneuver area too. That silver car in the front could also just pass in front and make space. Situational awareness has room to be improved for a lot of entities in this short video. Nueces Street is 3 and hal…
You can arrest a driver for not making space for an emergency vehicle. Who do we arrest here?
The passenger
Re: Waymo blocking ambulance during deadly Austin shooting
#50This comment section surely would look the same if it had been a Tesla, right?