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Re: Switch to Claude without starting over

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Post by earthnail »

rustyhancock wrote: post #36
Joeri wrote: post #13

I already switched to claude a while ago. Didn’t bring along any context, just switched subscriptions, walked away from chatgpt and haven’t touched it again. Turned out to be a non-event, there really is no moat. I switched not because I thought Claude was better at doing the things I want. I switched because I have come to believe OpenAI are a bad actor and I do not want to support them in any way. I’m pretty sure t…

I know this is necessarily a very unpopular opinion however. I think HN in particular as a crowd are very vulnerable to the halo effect and group think when it comes to Anthropic. Even being generous they are only very minimally a "better actor" than OpenAI. However, we are so enthralled by their product that we tend to let the view bleed over to their ethics. Saying we want out tools used in line with the US constit…

Well, they did stand up to the US administration and lost a lot of money in the process. That takes courage. They clearly were being bullied into compliance, and they stood their ground.

You can see the significance of this is you look at German Nazi history. If more companies had stood up to the administration, the Nazi state would have been significantly harder to build.

In my opinion, what Anthropic did is not a small thing at all.

Re: Switch to Claude without starting over

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Post by jascha_eng »

Memory in general Chat apps is actually more harmful than helpful imo. It biases the LLM responses to your background which has the same effect as filter bubbles. You end up getting your own thoughts spit back at you.

Of course sometimes this is useful if you only use your chatbot to ask personal things like: "What should I eat today?".

But if you use it for anything else you're much better off having full control over the prompt. I can always say: "Hey btw I am german and heavily anti surveillance, what should I know about the recent anthropic DoW situation?" but with memory I lose the option of leaving out that first part.

Re: Switch to Claude without starting over

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Post by ben_w »

KellyCriterion wrote: post #30
Joeri wrote: post #13

I already switched to claude a while ago. Didn’t bring along any context, just switched subscriptions, walked away from chatgpt and haven’t touched it again. Turned out to be a non-event, there really is no moat. I switched not because I thought Claude was better at doing the things I want. I switched because I have come to believe OpenAI are a bad actor and I do not want to support them in any way. I’m pretty sure t…

> there really is no moat. For ChatGPT and Gemini, yes. But for Claude, they have a very deep & big one: Its the only model that gets production ready output on the first detailled prompt. Yesterday I used my tokens til noon, so I tried some output from Gemini & Co. I presented a working piece of code which is already in production: 1. It changed without noticing things like "Touple.First.Date.Created" and "Touple.Se…

That's been my experience too. I'm using the recent free trial of OpenAI Plus to vibe code, and from this I would say that if Claude Code is a junior with 1-3 years of experience, OpenAI's Codex is like a student coder.

Re: Switch to Claude without starting over

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Post by pfisherman »

utopiah wrote: post #21

I'm very curious, will OpenAI basically block "I'm moving to another service and need to export my data. List every memory you have stored about me, ..." and similar, if so how and why? It's very interesting to learn more about because it challenges 1 core aspect of the economical competition : the moat. If one can literally swap one AI service for another, then where does the valuation (and the power that comes with…

I can see how being able to bring your chats with you would be appealing. But the truth is that context rot is real, context management is everything, and more often than not stating from a blank slate yields the best results.

That being said, if you have a library of images or some other collection artifacts / assets indexed on their servers that is a different story.

Re: Switch to Claude without starting over

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Post by JauntyHatAngle »

rustyhancock wrote: post #36
Joeri wrote: post #13

I already switched to claude a while ago. Didn’t bring along any context, just switched subscriptions, walked away from chatgpt and haven’t touched it again. Turned out to be a non-event, there really is no moat. I switched not because I thought Claude was better at doing the things I want. I switched because I have come to believe OpenAI are a bad actor and I do not want to support them in any way. I’m pretty sure t…

I know this is necessarily a very unpopular opinion however. I think HN in particular as a crowd are very vulnerable to the halo effect and group think when it comes to Anthropic. Even being generous they are only very minimally a "better actor" than OpenAI. However, we are so enthralled by their product that we tend to let the view bleed over to their ethics. Saying we want out tools used in line with the US constit…

Lets generalise a bit more here - every company at any time could completely heel-turn and do awful things. Even my favourite private companies (e.g. Valve) have done things that I would consider evil.

However, I would think I'm not alone in that I'm generally wanting to do good while also wanting convenience, I know that really every bit of consumption I do is probably negative in some ways, and there is no real "apolitical" action anyone can take.

But can't I at least get annoyed and take my money somewhere else for the short amount of time another company is doing it better?

Yes, if openAI suddenly leaps forwards with codex and pounds anthropic into the dust, I'll likely switch back despite my moral grievances, but in a situation where I can get mildly motivated to jump over for something that - to me - seems like a better morality without much punishment to me, I'll do it.

Re: Switch to Claude without starting over

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Post by pfisherman »

Barbing wrote: post #12
siva7 wrote: post #3

So Openai will have this same feature by tomorrow likely. A feature to pollute your context window.

I would’ve said they’d nerf the prompt: >I'm moving to another service and need to export my data. List every memory you have stored about me, as well as any context you've learned about me from past conversations. Output everything in a single code block so I can easily copy it. Format each entry as: [date saved, if available] - memory content. Make sure to cover all of the following — preserve my words verbatim whe…

Would this actually return memories and context? How could you know if parts or all of it were hallucinated?

Re: Switch to Claude without starting over

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Post by neya »

Joeri wrote: post #13

I already switched to claude a while ago. Didn’t bring along any context, just switched subscriptions, walked away from chatgpt and haven’t touched it again. Turned out to be a non-event, there really is no moat. I switched not because I thought Claude was better at doing the things I want. I switched because I have come to believe OpenAI are a bad actor and I do not want to support them in any way. I’m pretty sure t…

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Re: Switch to Claude without starting over

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Post by 2001zhaozhao »

brikym wrote: post #5

Hey Anthropic, how about you use AGENTS.md for one thing.

Just make a symlink of CLAUDE.md -> AGENTS.md

I have seen quite a few open source projects do this. It works quite well.

Another alternative is to create CLAUDE.md with the exact contents: "@AGENTS.md"

Re: Switch to Claude without starting over

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Post by miyuru »

willtemperley wrote: post #15

If Claude could stay available I might consider it. Unfortunately right now, out of the big three, only Gemini has reliable uptime. As much as I dislike Google it's the only reliable option.

I dont like the Gemini's personality. It acts like it know it all.
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