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Re: Pentagon chief blocks officers from Ivy League schools and top universities

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Post by pyuser583 »

Esophagus4 wrote: post #20
stockresearcher wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2026/2/26/langer-harvard-...

> Harvard itself is an incredibly inequitable place. Student organizations — and undergraduate social life more broadly — have been criticized for being stacked heavily against those without connections. And perhaps most insidious is Harvard’s unwavering preference for so-called ALDCs – athletes, legacies, dean’s interest list, and children of faculty and staff. Without dismantling our own elitism, how can Harvard be…

I don’t feel the same. My own alma mater is a niche school. It officially gives admissions pref to legacies, but unofficially depends on parents sending their kids as the school is not well known.

Harvard on the other hand - people go to Harvard to become elite. That only works because they get to hobnob with princes and the like. Thats the point.

The Ivy’s do a good job of admitting non-elite students. I’m glad that pathway to eliteness is there.

I’m proud of my small liberal arts Alma mater. I have no desire to network with billionaires and princes (as opposed to say, brilliant engineers and researchers).

But I’m glad the legacies at Harvard are sharing a classroom with kids from Appalachia. And that only happens if you get in the legacies.

Re: Pentagon chief blocks officers from Ivy League schools and top universities

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Post by Aeolun »

conception wrote: post #37
floatrock wrote: post #34

Remember when the Oppenheimer movie taught us how we got The Bomb even though the nazis had a significant head start because ze germans got rid of the smart people studying "jew physics" and what was left of their science took them to dead ends? Replace "jew physics" with "woke physics" and you see the idiocy of this. Foot, meet gun.

Fascism always trends to incompetency because loyalty is more important than skill and knowledge.

So it’s just a matter of time before the US crashes?

Re: Pentagon chief blocks officers from Ivy League schools and top universities

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Post by altairprime »

euio757 wrote: post #19

Interestingly, Dartmouth, UPenn, and Cornell aren't on the Cancelled Senior Service College (SSC) Fellowships list. So this is some select Ivy Leagues only.

Each of those three bowed their head to D&I demands, paid the bribe-fine demanded by the U.S. president, and revised their diversity definitions as demanded. So of course they’re exempt; that’s why they chose to pay their protection fee, after all. For example:

https://info.cornell.edu/executive-orders/federal-agreement/

> The university was reluctant to pay $30 million to the federal government to settle the OCR complaints; however, the alternative course of action would involve years of legal actions against the government with an uncertain outcome and untold costs to careers and livelihoods.

Re: Pentagon chief blocks officers from Ivy League schools and top universities

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Post by rcbdev »

Short_tend wrote: post #23

As someone enrolled in an IVY and seeing the absurd speculation by random commenter's, this is ridiculous. I can only speak for Columbia, but the amount of work & study we do all for this country is immense. EVEN if you are partisan you should know there are RW or neoliberal elements active here. Our country and the many young people who want to be in public service will suffer from this. And no, we are not whatever…

You "work & study" all for your country? That is impressive. Where I'm from, most people educate themselves for their own benefit and not because of some greater nationalistic plan. But we also don't pledge allegiances every single day for 11+ years of schooling, maybe that helps.

Re: Pentagon chief blocks officers from Ivy League schools and top universities

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Post by watwut »

thatfrenchguy wrote: post #18

Half of the best engineers I know come from a random state school, from a random country, and we should work way harder than we do on finding those people. But also… the other half come from prestigious colleges, and the way you solve the first half is not by not hiring the second half.

The decision has nothing to do with any of that tho. Te goal is to punish suspect liberals.

And to give advantage to candidate from right wing and conservative institutions. Because that is the oficial state ideology now.

Re: Pentagon chief blocks officers from Ivy League schools and top universities

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Post by watwut »

pyuser583 wrote: post #41
Esophagus4 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Harvard itself is an incredibly inequitable place. Student organizations — and undergraduate social life more broadly — have been criticized for being stacked heavily against those without connections. And perhaps most insidious is Harvard’s unwavering preference for so-called ALDCs – athletes, legacies, dean’s interest list, and children of faculty and staff. Without dismantling our own elitism, how can Harvard be…

I don’t feel the same. My own alma mater is a niche school. It officially gives admissions pref to legacies, but unofficially depends on parents sending their kids as the school is not well known. Harvard on the other hand - people go to Harvard to become elite. That only works because they get to hobnob with princes and the like. Thats the point. The Ivy’s do a good job of admitting non-elite students. I’m glad that…

The wild thing is that America pretends itself that it is a meritocracy while ... literally defending deeply nepotistic class based system like this.

If the Harward did not took that many legacies, they would spread out to different schools. And mixed with others there. You dont need to collect kids of powerful in one place to achieve that.

Re: Pentagon chief blocks officers from Ivy League schools and top universities

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Post by pyuser583 »

watwut wrote: post #46
pyuser583 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t feel the same. My own alma mater is a niche school. It officially gives admissions pref to legacies, but unofficially depends on parents sending their kids as the school is not well known. Harvard on the other hand - people go to Harvard to become elite. That only works because they get to hobnob with princes and the like. Thats the point. The Ivy’s do a good job of admitting non-elite students. I’m glad that…

The wild thing is that America pretends itself that it is a meritocracy while ... literally defending deeply nepotistic class based system like this. If the Harward did not took that many legacies, they would spread out to different schools. And mixed with others there. You dont need to collect kids of powerful in one place to achieve that.

I’m reassured by the fact that grads of non-Ivy Leagues do extremely well.

The focus on Harvard is really overblown.

Re: Pentagon chief blocks officers from Ivy League schools and top universities

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Post by olelele »

floatrock wrote: post #34

Remember when the Oppenheimer movie taught us how we got The Bomb even though the nazis had a significant head start because ze germans got rid of the smart people studying "jew physics" and what was left of their science took them to dead ends? Replace "jew physics" with "woke physics" and you see the idiocy of this. Foot, meet gun.

The nazi regime destroyed a lot of what today would be classified as "woke research" by the reactionary right. Sexuality studies, social studies and so on. The book burnings were not only about rooting out fiction, they destroyed research.

Re: Pentagon chief blocks officers from Ivy League schools and top universities

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Post by aaron695 »

thatfrenchguy wrote: post #18

Half of the best engineers I know come from a random state school, from a random country, and we should work way harder than we do on finding those people. But also… the other half come from prestigious colleges, and the way you solve the first half is not by not hiring the second half.

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Re: Pentagon chief blocks officers from Ivy League schools and top universities

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Post by snowpid »

Aeolun wrote: post #42
conception wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fascism always trends to incompetency because loyalty is more important than skill and knowledge.

So it’s just a matter of time before the US crashes?

I wouldn't say crash, but more decline. But many Americans including on HN and in SV don't like to see it.
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