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Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by aniviacat »

stingraycharles wrote: post #21
vee-kay wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI will get access to missiles, fighter jets, attack drones, and even nuclear launch codes - that's the fear. Even when the bombs drop from the sky, at least those humans who had deleted their OpenAI account can rest easy, knowing that that they weren't the ones supporting the AI that will delete humanity.

And what if an even worse alternative becomes the AI of choice for the DoD if OpenAI didn’t get this deal?

If the DoW had to rely on worse AI models, the process of integrating AI into their systems would be slowed down.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by mentalgear »

rustyhancock wrote: post #36
mentalgear wrote: post #33

Posting it here as a top-level comment as many people asked why boycott just openAi: ----- openAI is the least trustworthy of the Big LLM providers. See S(c)am Altman's track record, especially his early comments in senate hearings where: * he warned of engagement-optimisation strategies, like social media, being used for chatbots / LLMs. * also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies. Both o…

Just boycott them all if you can. That's what I've done. Some people's livelihoods probably depends on Claude and they can't say use Glm4.7 on HF. Fine. But it's a moral compromise, that's life sometimes you need to compromise what you want for what you need. just don't tell yourself it's a reasonable line to hold. I can't decouple from Google unfortunately but I accept that without fooling myself into thinking "Oh b…

I agree, if you can do boycott all of them (and maybe use open weight models locally or on e2ee cloud inference providers) - BUT I also think it 's crucial at a moment like this to take a stance against corporations like openAi that sign with the War Department, willing to introduce mass surveillance and autonomous weapons powered by brittle LLMs. This is a recipe for disaster and the only way they will sway away is by feeling it in the money/subscriptions and in their public image they so carefully crafted.

Note: yes, openAi claims it doesn't support the DoW above mentioned use-caes - but they have signed with the DoW and it is HIGHLY unlikely the DoW would give them a different terms than Antrohopic (at least regarding the substance). Maybe openAi was just happy with the "coat of paint" legalese the DoW offered - which Anthropic specifically called out as ineffective in their statement. I also wouldn't put it past Altman, who is much more friendly with Trumpo's gov, to play a double game here to get their main competitor out of the game. But at least in this case I hope he's acting for the benefit of all by truly standing with Anthropic on the issue.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by altmanaltman »

mentalgear wrote: post #33

Posting it here as a top-level comment as many people asked why boycott just openAi: ----- openAI is the least trustworthy of the Big LLM providers. See S(c)am Altman's track record, especially his early comments in senate hearings where: * he warned of engagement-optimisation strategies, like social media, being used for chatbots / LLMs. * also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies. Both o…

I know we should boycott openAI, i was just wondering if I should also boycott altman's other venture, Worldcoin which is down 97.27%? He said I'll get UBI soon

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by algo314 »

mentalgear wrote: post #33

Posting it here as a top-level comment as many people asked why boycott just openAi: ----- openAI is the least trustworthy of the Big LLM providers. See S(c)am Altman's track record, especially his early comments in senate hearings where: * he warned of engagement-optimisation strategies, like social media, being used for chatbots / LLMs. * also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies. Both o…

Don't forget the UBI/open-source BS he sold like a snakes-oil salesman and people even bought it.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by stingraycharles »

virgildotcodes wrote: post #31
stingraycharles wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So then you would prefer Grok instead? The genie is out of the bottle, this will happen anyway. The question is who will be the steward.

Grok and this administration are completely aligned, so if people believe that the government's coercive actions are to be stood up against, why on Earth would they support Grok instead of... the company that's actually taking a stand against government coercion?

That’s kind of my point. Why are we applauding Anthropic taking a strong stance, why do we want OpenAI to do the same, if that will inevitably lead to Grok getting their systems integrated in all of the DoD’s surveillance and intelligence systems?

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by stingraycharles »

mentalgear wrote: post #33

Posting it here as a top-level comment as many people asked why boycott just openAi: ----- openAI is the least trustworthy of the Big LLM providers. See S(c)am Altman's track record, especially his early comments in senate hearings where: * he warned of engagement-optimisation strategies, like social media, being used for chatbots / LLMs. * also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies. Both o…

Don’t you think Grok / X.ai is worse?

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by mentalgear »

stingraycharles wrote: post #46
mentalgear wrote: post #33

Posting it here as a top-level comment as many people asked why boycott just openAi: ----- openAI is the least trustworthy of the Big LLM providers. See S(c)am Altman's track record, especially his early comments in senate hearings where: * he warned of engagement-optimisation strategies, like social media, being used for chatbots / LLMs. * also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies. Both o…

Don’t you think Grok / X.ai is worse?

It is indeed, though personally I do not perceive Grok/xAi as one of the top LLM companies. Yes, they do some benchmark-maxing, but I do not think they are on par with Anthropic, Google/DeepMind or openAi.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by virgildotcodes »

stingraycharles wrote: post #45
virgildotcodes wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Grok and this administration are completely aligned, so if people believe that the government's coercive actions are to be stood up against, why on Earth would they support Grok instead of... the company that's actually taking a stand against government coercion?

That’s kind of my point. Why are we applauding Anthropic taking a strong stance, why do we want OpenAI to do the same, if that will inevitably lead to Grok getting their systems integrated in all of the DoD’s surveillance and intelligence systems?

I believe Grok is already as deeply integrated into the gov as can be, but it's objectively the least capable model family behind OpenAI, Anthropic, Gemini.

So the Gov could very well rely on it alone, purely on ideological grounds, but then they'd be condemned to using inferior tech at a time when everyone is really nervous about staying ahead in AI usage (rightly or wrongly). Not sure they'd be willing to accept that, and it does put pressure on them.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by mentalgear »

altmanaltman wrote: post #43
mentalgear wrote: post #33

Posting it here as a top-level comment as many people asked why boycott just openAi: ----- openAI is the least trustworthy of the Big LLM providers. See S(c)am Altman's track record, especially his early comments in senate hearings where: * he warned of engagement-optimisation strategies, like social media, being used for chatbots / LLMs. * also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies. Both o…

I know we should boycott openAI, i was just wondering if I should also boycott altman's other venture, Worldcoin which is down 97.27%? He said I'll get UBI soon

Oh yes, you get free UBI / Worldcoins - you just need to do a full scan with their creepy orb and allow a private-company to keep your full biometric data. That's not asking for too much, is it ... ?

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by moron4hire »

stingraycharles wrote: post #21
vee-kay wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI will get access to missiles, fighter jets, attack drones, and even nuclear launch codes - that's the fear. Even when the bombs drop from the sky, at least those humans who had deleted their OpenAI account can rest easy, knowing that that they weren't the ones supporting the AI that will delete humanity.

And what if an even worse alternative becomes the AI of choice for the DoD if OpenAI didn’t get this deal?

And what if Pete Hegseth does in a drunk driving accident? A lot of things can happen.
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