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The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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I have to wonder how much of this is driven by Israel accounting for the risk of less favorable US relationship in the future.

Pre-emptive violence; not even justified with a narrative of escalating threat.

Bleak for anybody who knows their history.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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post #8

Thankfully the stock market is closed

Speaking of markets... Polymarket was trading yes on this happening at quite interesting odds, "yes" was trading at around 30¢ or better over the next few days just a few hours ago...

I was quite surprised to see it that low... and also to find it is inaccessible for trading if a US national. Just looking at the platform it seems predominantly US driven so I gather many people are willfully attempting to breach the ToS (and probably lie to the IRS) when using it...

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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well, they were one week away from a nuke, as usual.

The concept of nuclear brinkmanship is part of accepted WMD doctrine. A country can maintain a fixed short interval away from weaponization for decades. It is widely accepted that Iran does have a military nuclear program; the amount of material enriched, the enrichment level achieved and the hardening of the involved facilities are an open testament to that (there are many other intelligence signals that we are not privy to).

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

#44

I was discussing this with a friend today. It just feels like there's no point to these actions. Not in the sense of "I don't ideologically agree with our decision to do this," but in the sense of, "I do not see how this accomplishes any ideological or practical goal." What are they trying for? Regime change in Iran? No more Iranian nuclear program? There barely was one before. Keeping Israel safe? It's been an open…

Well, they're probably killing thousands of their people there. This country was once aligned with us. We may yet have an ally there.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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well, they were one week away from a nuke, as usual.

since 1992!

There's an Israeli newspaper from 1984 saying it's a month away. Definitely more than a month passed between '84 and '92.

Btw. They ARE not that far away from the bomb, after they enriched uranium as a consequence of Trump (in his first term) cancelling the Obama treaty.

But they ARE a theocracy and Ajatollah Chamenei released an order (fatwa) forbidding Iran from obtaining and using an a-bomb. The new religious leader might change the religious law tho. I mean the one that comes after Chamenei becomes a martyr.

Funny how, knowing just a little bit more, it all really looks like nonsense created for illiterate, just to take their attention off of Epstein Pedophile Scandal.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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What a gift to the deeply unpopular Iranian regime. Nothing galvanizes support for whatever-you-have more than an external threat. Think about it. If someone actually bombed or invaded the continental US you'd have woke libs cheering for Donald Trump. The Iranian regime may fall, but it'll be like Iraq. We'll get something like ISIS out of it, or worse, and the place will be a complete basketcase of civil war for 25+…

>“Think about it. If someone actually bombed or invaded the continental US you'd have woke libs cheering for Donald Trump”

I think this is a scenario Steven miller fantasizes about while playing with action figures but that’s the closest it gets to being real.

Sure derogatory terms for liberals, as you term the left, would support the armed forces if China invaded hawaii but expecting them to also support Trump is fantasy. Like supporting America and supporting Donald Trump are entirely different matters and usually divergent.

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