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Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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post #10

You’re kinda already conceding to some of your opponents points when you use legally invalid names like “Department of War” I appreciate the sentiment but don’t preconcede to your opposition by using their framing.

I'm disappointed Anthropic made this mistake as well.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

#45
post #35

I hope Anthropic will survive this. If they don’t it will just be perfect proof that you cannot be both moral and successful in the US.

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This conflict has zero to do with AI in the grand scheme of things. We had a whole supreme court case about refusing service to customers. Remember that? Private companies can choose which customers to service. And let's be clear about what's being sold. It's not a product that changes hands, it's a service provided continually. And as anyone except the enlisted military troops can, said vendor can choose which efforts to help with. If what the government wants is so onerous as to find no vendors to offer it then that says something doesn't it?

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone knows anyone who signs this from xAI will be a former employee by tomorrow.

My guess is their HR is already monitoring it with instant termination processes in place.

You're assuming a lot about Elon's ability to assemble and execute a process competently. They will probably end up hiring people off this list and firing them later.

I think what is much more interesting is what OpenAI and Google will do. There's probably some threshold of signatories where the companies in question do not fire everyone when they decide they want the DoD's business, the question will be how many people have to sign to cross it... and will enough people sign.

I don't think Google would bat an eye at firing 500 people to secure a DoD contract, but would they fire 5,000?

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

#48
This is why you can't gatekeep AI capabilities. It will eventually be taken from you by force.

It's time to open-source everything. Papers, code, weights, financial records. Do all of your research in the open. Run 100% transparent labs so that there's nothing to take from you. Level the playing field for good and bad actors alike, otherwise the bad actors will get their hands on it while everyone else is left behind. Start a movement to make fully transparent AI labs the worldwide norm, and any org that doesn't cooperate is immediately boycotted.

Stop comparing AI capabilities to nuclear weapons. A nuke cannot protect against or reverse the damage of another nuke. AI capabilities are not like nukes. General intelligence should not be in the hands of a few. Give it to everyone and the good will prevail.

Build a world where millions of AGIs run on millions of gaming PCs, where each AI is aligned with an individual human, not a corporation or government (which are machiavellian out of necessity). This is humanity's best chance at survival.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

#49

I hope Anthropic will survive this. If they don’t it will just be perfect proof that you cannot be both moral and successful in the US.

Who cares whether the "company" survives? I've seen this movie. A few of them in fact. We're on the chopping block here, lol.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

#50

This is why you can't gatekeep AI capabilities. It will eventually be taken from you by force. It's time to open-source everything. Papers, code, weights, financial records. Do all of your research in the open. Run 100% transparent labs so that there's nothing to take from you. Level the playing field for good and bad actors alike, otherwise the bad actors will get their hands on it while everyone else is left behind…

When have US corporations (or simply "the US" really) ever done the right thing for humanity?
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