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The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages

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Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages

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Post by masswerk »

> We recruited 8 participants across 8 different countries, deliberately seeking diversity in age, digital savviness, and cultural background.

> 5 out of 8 points versus just 3 for "I am human." For the verifying state, it was even more dramatic — 7.5 versus 0.5.

n × p >= 5? (Sample size and margins of errors. Is 5:3 even meaningful or is this rather random personal preference?) Apparent splitting of missing or inconclusive data points? (7.5 vs. 0.5 out of a total of 8 subjects.) What kind of (social) research is this supposed to be?

Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages

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Post by andrepd »

Starlevel004 wrote: post #10

> Designing a product with billions of eyeballs on it isn't just challenging — it requires a fundamentally different approach. I'm not reading this.

That's why I say most AI content isn't just slop—it's fundamentally about deception. It's about tricking someone into believing that a text was written by a human, or that a photo or video is a true recording of a real event.

Like this, its purpose is to fly under the radar unless your figurative ears are pricked up and primed to detect the telltale signs. Fuck this shit.

Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages

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Post by kingkongjaffa »

christina97 wrote: post #9

Am I reading it right, the widget is seen 5B times per day, and they recruited 8 people for testing to make sure their “redesign would work for everyone”…?

The process described in the article is literally just checking the boxes blindly for what passes for a design process these days. The guru's say interview customers so they have done just that without really understanding why. Given it's AI it's also possible the whole thing is entirely made up and someone just tweaked the design over an afternoon and shipped it.

Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages

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Post by tamimio »

Starlevel004 wrote: post #10

> Designing a product with billions of eyeballs on it isn't just challenging — it requires a fundamentally different approach. I'm not reading this.

I remember back I think around 2011, CF was new and I was testing it on some vbulletin forum, all the email communication were with the cofounder if I recall correctly, the UI had only the dns settings back then. Now they make a whole article on some text redesign, time flies.

Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages

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Post by KolmogorovComp »

jazzpush2 wrote: post #37
KolmogorovComp wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This! The comment I was angrily about to write.

Why? Genuinely, who cares? Is some demographic group not caught in the 8 going to be offended by basic checkbox screen? Is someone with a niche form of colorblindness going to have difficulty navigating the UI?

How can you seriously pretend to do any study with only eight people involved? Especially when your company is worth billion. It just calls for bad press and criticism of amateurism.

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Post by madeofpalk »

jazzpush2 wrote: post #37
KolmogorovComp wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This! The comment I was angrily about to write.

Why? Genuinely, who cares? Is some demographic group not caught in the 8 going to be offended by basic checkbox screen? Is someone with a niche form of colorblindness going to have difficulty navigating the UI?

I mean, yes? A very broad spectrum of people need to use the internet, and cloudflare has inserted themselves in the middle of it.

I don't necessarily find a problem with them, but its weird how they boasted about massive scale and importance of this, but then only just went with 8 tests.

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Post by CapsAdmin »

JadedBlueEyes wrote: post #24
Starlevel004 wrote: post #10

> Designing a product with billions of eyeballs on it isn't just challenging — it requires a fundamentally different approach. I'm not reading this.

Yet again [0] quality standards seem to have slipped on the cloudflare blog. I'm not able to point at a cause, but it's not painting a pretty picture. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46781516

It kinda looks like employees need to make a blog post about something twice a month.

Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages

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Post by TacticalCoder »

Starlevel004 wrote: post #16
upmind wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you base the AI use on the emdash or is this an a common AI phrase (or both)?

"Not just X -- it's Y" is one of the more irritatingly common signs, especially for sentences like that one which absolutely do not need it. The Wikipedia article on detecting AI writing is a big help if you need to calibrate your sensors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing

> "Not just X -- it's Y" is one of the more irritatingly common signs ...

It's a bit of a "Karen AI" telltale sign. It's probably been trained on a lot of "I-know-it-all-Karen" posts and as a result we're bombarded with Karen-slop.

Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages

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Post by mh2266 »

upmind wrote: post #12
Starlevel004 wrote: post #10

> Designing a product with billions of eyeballs on it isn't just challenging — it requires a fundamentally different approach. I'm not reading this.

Did you base the AI use on the emdash or is this an a common AI phrase (or both)?

"Let's be honest" is another extremely strong tell.
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