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Re: Palantir's AI Is Playing a Major Role in Tracking Gaza Aid Deliveries

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Post by hirvi74 »

SR2Z wrote: post #9
Cyph0n wrote: post #4

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The only situation in which 2A will stop mattering is if the government decides it is willing to level American cities to achieve its future goals. You cannot kick down doors with AI. You cannot infiltrate meetings with AI (well, at least not if the meeting holders have good opsec). AI is great if you want to identify targets, but it does not move the needle very much on an occupation. If you want to preserve the are…

> The only situation in which 2A will stop mattering is if the government decides it is willing to level American cities to achieve its future goals.

That wouldn't even be necessary. A siege/blockade would cripple any resistance after enough attrition. Take any moderate or large city. It's hard to maintain hundreds of thousands to millions of people with no running water, electricity, agriculture, fuel, healthcare, etc..

Re: Palantir's AI Is Playing a Major Role in Tracking Gaza Aid Deliveries

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Post by buzzerbetrayed »

trelane wrote: post #14
benlivengood wrote: post #10

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Palantir employees probably know how easy it would be to correlate any post they make to their real identity.

Also that they are unlikely to get a fair shake unless they say what folks here want to hear.

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Re: Palantir's AI Is Playing a Major Role in Tracking Gaza Aid Deliveries

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Post by reliabilityguy »

Cyph0n wrote: post #35
reliabilityguy wrote: post #26

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> but the Gaza genocide War is not a genocide.

Wrong, but feel free to replace genocide with whatever term you deem politically correct and try to understand my wider point.

> Wrong

No, not wrong. Hutu committed genocide. Turks committed genocide against Armenians. But the war in Gaza is not a genocide once you consider facts and compare to other modern conflicts.

> and try to understand my wider point

Your point is founded on falsehoods.

Re: Palantir's AI Is Playing a Major Role in Tracking Gaza Aid Deliveries

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Post by yunnpp »

AnonHP wrote: post #19

I skimmed through the article. I didn’t understand what role AI supposedly plays in this case for tracking aid deliveries. For tracking you need sensors and connectivity from the mode of delivery, location information, some analytics and databases. What does this AI do for tracking? I can understand a sales pitch that says AI decides where to provide aid, how much, when, etc. But tracking deliveries? It’s a head scra…

I'm not the expert and the details that the company would put out are obviously obtuse, but: image detection/identification, predictive policing, and planning. The latter sounds to me like they'd have some system where people enter reports in natural language and an LLM assembles the information together and then proposes some plan of action. As opposed to having to have a more structured data entry and the friction that comes with it. It's all in the article if you read between the lines, really.

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Post by mikestorrent »

dvt wrote: post #38
mikestorrent wrote: post #29

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So edgy; is being an apologist really the noble calling you think it is? Both are just words, mappings to concepts in our minds; "genocide" is an invented term, but it has a widely shared definition that the UN helped formalize, and in the minds of many, many people all over the world, the term applies here. "War" could one day be waged against whatever group you belong to, as well. You may wish for the country wagin…

> So edgy; is being an apologist really the noble calling you think it is? Is it your noble calling? From the Temporary Constitution of the State of Palestine (2026)[1]: Article 4 – Islam, Sharia and Christianity 1. Islam is the official religion in the State of Palestine. 2. The principles of Islamic Sharia are a primary source for legislation. Not sure how anyone can possibly defend a literal religious autocracy, e…

We can see that your own noble calling is to be an apologist for a genocidal state. It's a pity that in reality you likely do not actually get paid for the task, though I must imagine you have people accusing you of that on a regular basis. I'm not sure if it would improve or worsen the moral calculus if you did.

I have no issue with Islam being the religion of Palestine, at least not an issue so strong that murdering its people seems like the correct path forward to me. I suppose your moral reasoning differs on the topic, but it's obviously motivated reasoning based on loyalties I cannot share.

Re: Palantir's AI Is Playing a Major Role in Tracking Gaza Aid Deliveries

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Post by mikestorrent »

klipt wrote: post #37
mikestorrent wrote: post #29

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So edgy; is being an apologist really the noble calling you think it is? Both are just words, mappings to concepts in our minds; "genocide" is an invented term, but it has a widely shared definition that the UN helped formalize, and in the minds of many, many people all over the world, the term applies here. "War" could one day be waged against whatever group you belong to, as well. You may wish for the country wagin…

Doesn't the Geneva Convention state that if militants build an underground base beneath a civilian building, that civilian building becomes a military target? Gaza is Swiss-cheesed with hundreds of miles of military tunnels. If any attack on a tunnel is disallowed because of civilian buildings above it, I predict many countries will start adopting the Hamas strategy of putting military bases under civilian buildings.…

I do not blame the people of Palestine for taking the defensive actions they deem correct. I do not consent to the idea of civilians becoming legitimate targets due to defensive architecture. Yes, war crimes are being committed; your comment makes you bear complicity to them, in a small degree, as you serve as an apologist for such actions online.

Of course, both of our posting is pointless, as we know neither will convince the other. You have an advantage in that your particular side is in power; but I bite my thumb at you.

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Post by [deleted] »

SR2Z wrote: post #9
Cyph0n wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The only situation in which 2A will stop mattering is if the government decides it is willing to level American cities to achieve its future goals. You cannot kick down doors with AI. You cannot infiltrate meetings with AI (well, at least not if the meeting holders have good opsec). AI is great if you want to identify targets, but it does not move the needle very much on an occupation. If you want to preserve the are…

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Re: Palantir's AI Is Playing a Major Role in Tracking Gaza Aid Deliveries

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Post by mikestorrent »

reliabilityguy wrote: post #40
mikestorrent wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So edgy; is being an apologist really the noble calling you think it is? Both are just words, mappings to concepts in our minds; "genocide" is an invented term, but it has a widely shared definition that the UN helped formalize, and in the minds of many, many people all over the world, the term applies here. "War" could one day be waged against whatever group you belong to, as well. You may wish for the country wagin…

> is being an apologist really the noble calling you think it is? Both are just words, mappings to concepts in our minds; "genocide" is an invented term, but it has a widely shared definition that the UN helped formalize Great. Which describes a very specific thing. good. > and in the minds of many, many people all over the world, the term applies here. In minds of many people many things were acceptable. I am not su…

> Were Hutu right?

I don't need to involve other conflicts in this situation. This is a "whataboutism". Wrongful actions in another conflict do not justify future conflicts. The actions the world has seen do not simply go away because of your comment. I don't need to rehash every factual news article on the topic to justify my position, nor do I need you to rehash the glazing opinion pieces that justify yours; we won't move the needle that way, will we?

> if you can simply say "it's hasbara" and walk away

I'm not walking away, but surely we can both see that there will be no agreement between us. All that I request is that you do not place an explosive device in a pager and send it to me, as that would be very inconsiderate; my neighbour works the night shift and the resulting shockwave would ruin his daytime sleep.

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Post by YZF »

AnonHP wrote: post #19

I skimmed through the article. I didn’t understand what role AI supposedly plays in this case for tracking aid deliveries. For tracking you need sensors and connectivity from the mode of delivery, location information, some analytics and databases. What does this AI do for tracking? I can understand a sales pitch that says AI decides where to provide aid, how much, when, etc. But tracking deliveries? It’s a head scra…

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