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Hegseth gives Anthropic until Friday to back down on AI safeguards

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Re: Hegseth gives Anthropic until Friday to back down on AI safeguards

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Post by levocardia »

dpedu wrote: post #26

Tangent: is there a future for AI offerings with guardrails? What kind of user wants to pay for a product that occasionally tells you "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"? Why would I pay for a product that doesn't do what I want, despite being capable? I predict that as AI becomes less of a bubble and more of an everyday thing - and thus subject to typical market pressures - offerings with guardrails will st…

I personally would love it if AI would say "Sorry Dave (or Pete), I'm afraid I can't spy on Americans for you," and I'd happily pay higher taxes to force the Pentagon to use that AI.

Re: Hegseth gives Anthropic until Friday to back down on AI safeguards

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Post by Symmetry »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #39
tbrownaw wrote: post #35

> A source familiar with the Tuesday meeting says the Pentagon said it would terminate Anthropic’s contract by Friday if the company does not agree to its terms. Pentagon officials also warned they would either use the Defense Production Act against Anthropic, or designate Anthropic a supply chain risk if the company didn’t comply with their demands. So they're saying they won't use it if it comes with restrictions.…

> or (c) the government won't use it And coerce other defence contractors into not using it.

Not just companies that we think of as defense contractors but a whole ton of corporations that do business with the federal government. They'd be treating Anthropic like it was controlled by the CCP or Revolutionary Guards.

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Post by outside1234 »

m_ke wrote: post #8

If OpenAI employees have an inch of spine left, they better demand Sama to take the same stance on this as Dario. No mass surveillance and no autonomous weapons.

Sam would sell his mom to make $0.50. Pretty sure he will be willing to do whatever the Pentagon wants.

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Post by thewebguyd »

looperhacks wrote: post #34
perfmode wrote: post #23

> But Anthropic has concerns over two issues that it isn’t willing to drop, the source said: AI-controlled weapons and mass domestic surveillance of American citizens. Not a good look for the Pentagon.

The Pentagon is pretty high on my list of "institutions that are probably very interested in weapons and surveillance". I think it's more expected than a bad look

The core difference being, they should be interested in weapons and surveillance to be used against enemies of the state which, historically, is not supposed to be the country's own citizens.

As in, I fully expect the pentagon to be interested in weapons. I do not expect, and would hope they don't pursue, mass surveillance against their own population.

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Post by AIorNot »

blibble wrote: post #10
m_ke wrote: post #8

If OpenAI employees have an inch of spine left, they better demand Sama to take the same stance on this as Dario. No mass surveillance and no autonomous weapons.

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Well just at look who Brockman donated too - he didnt give 25 freaking million to help end the surveillance state he gave it to Trump and co

https://gizmodo.com/openai-president-defends-trump-donations...

Re: Hegseth gives Anthropic until Friday to back down on AI safeguards

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Post by zedlasso »

tbrownaw wrote: post #35

> A source familiar with the Tuesday meeting says the Pentagon said it would terminate Anthropic’s contract by Friday if the company does not agree to its terms. Pentagon officials also warned they would either use the Defense Production Act against Anthropic, or designate Anthropic a supply chain risk if the company didn’t comply with their demands. So they're saying they won't use it if it comes with restrictions.…

the funny thing that no one seems to be talking about is that all the other LLM's have already agreed and Anthropic is the only holding out.

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Post by drivingmenuts »

perfmode wrote: post #23

> But Anthropic has concerns over two issues that it isn’t willing to drop, the source said: AI-controlled weapons and mass domestic surveillance of American citizens. Not a good look for the Pentagon.

Their unwillingness to bend on those requirements seems like an admission that they are very interested in those things, if not already doing them.
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