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Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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I assume this is a symptom of the wider ai hardware issue. This is starting to feel a bit like universal paperclips to me, and we are on the verge of the next stage of industrialisation multiplication. I guess its either quantum computing or the hypnodrones which will get us out of this mess one way or another...

All these macro technology predictions feel very WW2 Wunderwaffe to me

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post #10

I assume this is a symptom of the wider ai hardware issue. This is starting to feel a bit like universal paperclips to me, and we are on the verge of the next stage of industrialisation multiplication. I guess its either quantum computing or the hypnodrones which will get us out of this mess one way or another...

More like China-factor to get us out of the mess. We wait for Huawei photonics gpus (end of this year), CXMT and YMTC ramping up production to flood the market or as Janet coined it overcapacity. You know China will undercut the price significantly.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A hosting company referring to the core of their business as "the IT branch" doesn't instil confidence.

It's a German hosting company making a translation error from the German "IT-Branche". The wording doesn't appear in the German version, but very well could have at some point in the process.

yes, "IT-Branche" means "the IT industry"

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI bubble won't last forever when a lot of compute is burned at a loss just so people can generate AI videos of sharks driving cars for social media shorts. It will burst at some point, at which HW manufacturing will have to lower prices if they still want to have enough sales to stay in business, since most of their current sales boom comes from HW they haven't even made yet. OpenAI can't keep losing investor money…

I really don't think so. I feel like we're at a takeoff. Senior engineers using AI coding are 10x more productive. My output has jumped dramatically. I'm a senior engineer and built six nines, active-active systems that moved billions of dollars a day. I am absolutely a beast with these models. I can replace an entire team just by myself. I'm literally shipping an entire week of features in half a day. I'm reviewing…

> I can replace an entire team just by myself. I'm literally shipping an entire week of features in half a day. I'm reviewing the code and planning the architecture - I am not dialing this in.

So you can review so much code so fast? Are you sure?

In many companies code reviews (properly) are the bottleneck. This was the case without AI. Now you're saying AI is giving you 10x more code reviews and you're even faster.

What am I missing?

p.s. I agree AI can make you and things faster just not suddenly god mode.

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As a customer, I am OK with most increases but not the object storage one. This one has some quality issues and is no longer competitive in price either. I'm thinking of moving S3 part to OVH.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.hetzner.com/pressroom/statement-price-adjustment... Text in full: > There have been drastic price increases in various areas in the IT branch recently. That is why, unfortunately, we must also increase the prices of our products. > The costs to operate our infrastructure and to buy new hardware have both increased dramatically. Therefore, our price changes will affect both existing products and new orders…

A hosting company referring to the core of their business as "the IT branch" doesn't instil confidence.

Seems poor translation. The German version only speaks about rising costs in various areas, no mention of any IT branch. They probably meant the whole IT market in general, not specifically their own company or some branch of it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't think so. I feel like we're at a takeoff. Senior engineers using AI coding are 10x more productive. My output has jumped dramatically. I'm a senior engineer and built six nines, active-active systems that moved billions of dollars a day. I am absolutely a beast with these models. I can replace an entire team just by myself. I'm literally shipping an entire week of features in half a day. I'm reviewing…

So prices will need to increase -- if it makes a senior engineer 10x more productive then coding assistants could easily cost 20x-100x more then what they cost today. Same for video generation.

Given that 10x engineers cost in the millions and that movies cost in the hundreds of millions - this is okay!

Edit: HN rate limit won't let me reply, so here -

I'm saying that hiring ten senior engineer costs millions. (Not a single 10xer - that's such a debated thing anyway, Fabrice Bellard or not.)

AI companies will make bank when they've hooked us all on the tools and raise prices.

Companies would likely rather pay $500k/yr to Anthropic and $750k/yr to engineers than $2M/yr to an uneven team of humans with HR, taxes, and other expenses, attrition, etc.

Anthropic is going to make bank.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Still 90% cheaper than using AWS

AWS and Azure will have to increase prices soon too, they just have more existing hardware to postpone it for a bit longer.

I didn't think it was possible for Vercel to get more expensive, but I guess we're going to find out.
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