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Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

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Re: Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

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Post by saubeidl »

raincole wrote: post #34
Upvoter33 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty dismissive ("when they grow up") of the group of people in the 16-24 year old range. These are not children; most of that group is 18 and over. You imply noise but there is clearly some signal in this result.

Read it as "when they get older" if that makes you feel better. It's known that people are more likely to switch from liberal to conservatives when they get older than vice versa.

One could also say people get more conservative as their mental acuity decreases with age, but that too, would be an uncalled for judgement and projection of one's own political views.

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Post by alistairSH »

mikkupikku wrote: post #26
Upvoter33 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty dismissive ("when they grow up") of the group of people in the 16-24 year old range. These are not children; most of that group is 18 and over. You imply noise but there is clearly some signal in this result.

How old are you now, and how much of what you believe now is the same as when you were 16-24? It shouldn't be controversial to say that young people are brimming with idealism while being low on experience. FWIW I think Brexit was dumb but I never felt strongly about any of it because it doesn't effect me in any way. I'm not saying their views on Brexit specifically are likely to change.

I’m still a bleeding heart and have been since college. If anything I’ve become MORE liberal over time, as that has allowed me time to realize just how wealthy and privileged I am as a male, white American professional.

Re: Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

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Post by peyton »

cedws wrote: post #17

I was too young to vote in the referendum. I’m incredibly angry about having lost freedom of movement. If the UK by some miracle rejoins the EU I will make the jump to Europe the very same day. Still looking for a way out in the meantime. The UK just keeps kicking young people down. The boomers voting against our interests are whipping us into working to pay for their triple locked pensions.

Freedom of movement applies to the territory of a country [1]. Sorry you learned the hard way. Historically you get rights when you pick up a service weapon. Everything else is privilege granted by others.

[1]: Gilbert, Nomadic Peoples and Human Rights (2014), p. 73: "Freedom of movement within a country encompasses both the right to travel freely within the territory of the State and the right to relocate oneself and to choose one's place of residence".

Re: Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

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Post by consp »

sgt wrote: post #36
citrin_ru wrote: post #19

65+ is the only age group in which >50% still believe Brexit was a good choice.

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> It gives more autonomy and the EU was a spanner in the works

And yet the biggest trading partner now dictates the standards, now without any UK input.

Re: Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Schmerika wrote: post #10
mcc1ane wrote: post #9

The cohort least likely to vote.

And the cohort most likely to vote well when they do. The 18 year olds who vote less but vote for good parties are doing good, overall. The 60 year olds voting Tory their whole lives - not so much. It's very easy to blame the young for all the problems earlier generations created and exacerbated. Not too wise though.

> And the cohort most likely to vote well when they do

Eh, this is far from a given. Mao's Red Guards were passionate idiots. And America's young men are in thrall of Clavicular.

The most powerful empires in history have had large rebublics at their cores for good reason. The wisdom of a crowd greatly increases with its diversity.

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Post by saubeidl »

_9za9 wrote: post #32
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ITV is a commercial broadcaster.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITV_plc

> ITV plc is a British media company that holds 13 of the 15 regional television licences that make up the ITV network (Channel 3), the oldest and largest commercial terrestrial television network in the United Kingdom

Re: Over 80% of 16 to 24-year-olds would vote to rejoin the EU

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Post by Smalltalker-80 »

Yep, there's a lot of (continuing) economical damage and still a lot of new immigrants every week. I think some time still needs to pass before Brexit politicians dare to change their stance, now confronted with the results of their choice. In the mean time, Brexit rules are quietly being undone without losing face too much. See the EU-UK trade deals from May 2025.
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