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I hate AI side projects

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Re: I hate AI side projects

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Post by snarf_br »

ojr wrote: post #38
getnormality wrote: post #13

Blog posts by authors claiming AI has transformed them into godlike engines of productivity: 103728369129 Interviews by celebrities predicting AI will revolutionize the economy: 2837191001747 Software and online things I've used that seem to be better than they were before ChatGPT was introduced: 0

Google Search has gotten better unless you think AI mode is a downgrade, the alternative of having a wikipedia article, reddit post or random website as the first result is not better technically maybe morally for you but not matter of factually. The average user does less manual filtering.

Factually and environmentally as well.

Re: I hate AI side projects

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #33
getnormality wrote: post #13

Blog posts by authors claiming AI has transformed them into godlike engines of productivity: 103728369129 Interviews by celebrities predicting AI will revolutionize the economy: 2837191001747 Software and online things I've used that seem to be better than they were before ChatGPT was introduced: 0

To be fair there is this persistent paradox about programming methodologies is that no matter how much they seem to speed you up, or how effective they seem to be at reducing bugs, this doesn't seem to give you any material competitive advantage over companies going for the most conservative language and methodology choices.

It's almost like writing the code isn't the hard part.

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Post by theturtletalks »

acedTrex wrote: post #28
theturtletalks wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just gave you two Vibetunnel and Openclaw. If you think those are worthless, I don't know what else to tell you.

Yes both of those are beyond worthless and largely uninteresting. That being said, THOSE projects at this point have enough "activity" around them to make them at least somewhat worthy of a post. Which none of the vibe code posts have going for them.

How about Pi terminal agent, it's been my favorite terminal agent after trying CC, Droid, Opencode, Codex, Gemini, Amp. Just because you don't find valuable new side projects made using AI, doesn't mean they don't exist.

There's more projects I suspect are made predominantly using AI, but I don't want to speculate.

Re: I hate AI side projects

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Post by KronisLV »

getnormality wrote: post #13

Blog posts by authors claiming AI has transformed them into godlike engines of productivity: 103728369129 Interviews by celebrities predicting AI will revolutionize the economy: 2837191001747 Software and online things I've used that seem to be better than they were before ChatGPT was introduced: 0

> Software and online things I've used that seem to be better than they were before ChatGPT was introduced: 0

I don't think you can really get any sort of a signal on this?

Nobody is all that sensitive to the amount of features that get shipped in any project, and nobody really perceives how many people or how much time was needed to ship anything. As a user, unless that means a 5x difference in price of some service, you don't really see or care about any of that - and even if there were savings on the part of any developer/company, they'd probably just pocket the difference. Similarly, if there's a product or service that exists thanks to vibe coding and wouldn't have existed otherwise, you probably don't know that particular detail.

Even when fuckups and bugs do happen, there's also no signal whether it's explicitly due to AI (or whether people are scapegoating it), or just management pushing features nobody wants and enshittifying products and entire industries for their own gain.

Well, maybe StackOverflow is a bit easier to host now: https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/stack-overflow-is-almost-...

Re: I hate AI side projects

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Post by j45 »

"If you don’t have something truly special.."

I'm not sure if this article deserves all that much attention if the standard is a subjective interpretation of what is truly special.. human made, human directed, or not.

Is there some sort of spectrum of not special, kind of special, pretty special, and truly special?

Does it have to be special for everyone or just some people?

Is it trying to say that people by default build and share things for external validation?

The argument about how people are using AI to solve a problem is akin to how people might feel about someone using a spreadsheet to solve a problem.

Sometimes projects are for learning. Sometimes projects are for solving a problem that's small to others, but okay to you to solve.

Insecurity about other people learning to build things for the first time and then continue to learn to build them better might be what this is about, period.

There's always been a great number of problems that never could could quite get the attention of software development.

I've genuinely met non-software folks who are interested in first solving a problem and then solving it better and better. And I think that type of self-directed learning in software is invaluable.

AI makes slop, but humans sure seem to like creating the same frameworks over and in every language and thinking it's progress in some way. But every so often, you get a positive shift forward, maybe a Ruby on Rails or something else.

Re: I hate AI side projects

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Post by hu3 »

getnormality wrote: post #13

Blog posts by authors claiming AI has transformed them into godlike engines of productivity: 103728369129 Interviews by celebrities predicting AI will revolutionize the economy: 2837191001747 Software and online things I've used that seem to be better than they were before ChatGPT was introduced: 0

- learning: easier

- searching: better

- photo edit/enhance/filter: easier and acessible

- text summarization: better

- quick scripts/tools: faster

- brainstorming/iterating ideas: faster

- generating list of names: faster

- rephrasing text: better

- researching topics: faster

- stackoverflow: i'm finally free. won't be missed by me

- coding: debatable but for me LLMs made possible projects that weren't before due to scope or lack of expertise

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