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Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

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Post by chrisjj »

ShowalkKama wrote: post #39
7bit wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think the bigger issue is the thing she does voluntary, and that the lesser issue is that Grok leaked something without her consent, that she protected for over a decade? Are you serious?

how did grok gain access to this supposedly private information? Did it pilfer her private emails? Did it hack the producer's website and gained access to confidential files? Did it look through her computer? Look, I hate grok just as much as the next person but if it was just crawled then by definition it is not private. You may very well argue that people are harassing her (and that it's not ok), you may even argue…

> how did grok gain access to this supposedly private information? Did it pilfer her private emails? Did it hack the producer's website and gained access to confidential files? Did it look through her computer?

Or just read the Instagram and Facebook pages for this stage name. This "private" info is right there.

Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

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Post by lazide »

zamadatix wrote: post #25
jlawer wrote: post #6

For Grok’s sake you hope this is data that was public, something that was buried deep that it has surfaced. It’s a shame transparency is so poor here. A simple grep of the training data would likely give a clear explanation of where this has come from.

Grokipedia (an online encyclopedia run by xAI and steered by Grok) lists a few sources for it directly, even in old copies of the entry https://web.archive.org/web/20251225113339/https://grokipedi... Grok shouldn't be serving this kind of information IMO, and it's yet another serial example of xAI just not caring about real problems, but the even bigger crime is these services she is paying thousands to seem to have…

LLMs are fundamentally not deterministic or predictable the way people think they are, and it shows up pretty clearly in situations like this. It isn’t even as deterministic or predictable as a human. And humans aren’t particularly deterministic or predictable.

Grok, like Tesla FSD, is also kinda half assed, so it shows up even more prominently on that front.

Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

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Post by walletdrainer »

hiccuphippo wrote: post #14

>I've been paying for data removal services for like, at least six years now Do such services actually work? The internet is forever.

Yes they work, no it isn’t.

The sketchier ones will get content taken down with fake court orders and similar.

Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

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Post by pavel_lishin »

manbash wrote: post #23
pavel_lishin wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But should that information ever have been publicly available? Someone else here linked to another instagram account publishing the same data, but that sure sounds like she didn't put it out there. It's like saying that someone publishing your bank account balance or nude photos is fine, because someone once stole that data and released it on the internet.

No, it's not. You assume it was stolen, while it wasn't implied in that comment. They simply stated that the data have been put publicly at some point or another.

I do assume that, because I assume that this actress did not at any point make it public. It's a reasonable assumption, and it's asinine to assume otherwise.

Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

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Post by selridge »

randyrand wrote: post #32

I feel like the bigger issue - from an anonymity perspective - is that she is publicly showing her real face while doing these things, no?

If the bigger issue to you is that people have a face attached to their bodies then you are off base.

Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

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Post by well_ackshually »

chrisjj wrote: post #40
well_ackshually wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you so fundamentally limited that you can't see the difference between "it's somewhere on the internet if you look very hard" and "a chatbot ingested petabytes of data and you can't ever escape it anymore", or is it just misogyny and hating sex workers ?

> Are you so fundamentally limited that you can't see the difference between "it's somewhere on the internet if you look very hard" Google her stage name. Her legal name appears instantly from Instagram and Facebook. Not very hard.

No, it doesn't. Maybe now that she's been doxed, but her work socials do not include her name, anywhere.

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Post by [deleted] »

7bit wrote: post #37
randyrand wrote: post #32

I feel like the bigger issue - from an anonymity perspective - is that she is publicly showing her real face while doing these things, no?

You think the bigger issue is the thing she does voluntary, and that the lesser issue is that Grok leaked something without her consent, that she protected for over a decade? Are you serious?

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Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

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Post by randyrand »

7bit wrote: post #37
randyrand wrote: post #32

I feel like the bigger issue - from an anonymity perspective - is that she is publicly showing her real face while doing these things, no?

You think the bigger issue is the thing she does voluntary, and that the lesser issue is that Grok leaked something without her consent, that she protected for over a decade? Are you serious?

From a privacy perspective, doing something voluntarily doesn't negate anything. It's still the bigger privacy issue.

Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

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Post by randyrand »

randyrand wrote: post #48
7bit wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think the bigger issue is the thing she does voluntary, and that the lesser issue is that Grok leaked something without her consent, that she protected for over a decade? Are you serious?

From a privacy perspective, doing something voluntarily doesn't negate anything. It's still the bigger privacy issue.

All it takes is for one person to recognize her for her name to be known.
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