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Canadians promised to boycott travel to US. They meant it

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Re: Canadians promised to boycott travel to US. They meant it

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Shannon also has pre-clearance. The list is small outside of Canada though - Dublin, Shannon, Abu Dhabi, Aruba, Bermuda and Nassau.

You can use eGates in the UK, same as me as a British citizen (as long as your passport's new enough, probably all of them by now) - that covers it doesn't it? Otherwise I'm not clear what 'pre-clearance' is skipping? Painless for me into Canada too.

It saves you the hassle of going through customs when you land at your destination.

Re: Canadians promised to boycott travel to US. They meant it

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Surprised Canadians would pick the US as a tourist destination to begin with. Europe is cheaper and more fun. America's one advantage: nature, is matched and at times exceeded by Canada. Flights to warm places like Miami and SD take just as long as Mexico or the Caribbean. Other than NYC and Utah-area national parks, I can't think of unique reasons for Canadians to vacation in the US specifically.

> America's one advantage: nature

Proximity? Language? Hard to drive to Europe.

Re: Canadians promised to boycott travel to US. They meant it

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Surprised Canadians would pick the US as a tourist destination to begin with. Europe is cheaper and more fun. America's one advantage: nature, is matched and at times exceeded by Canada. Flights to warm places like Miami and SD take just as long as Mexico or the Caribbean. Other than NYC and Utah-area national parks, I can't think of unique reasons for Canadians to vacation in the US specifically.

> Other than NYC and Utah-area national parks, I can't think of unique reasons for Canadians to vacation in the US specifically. While NYC and Utah Area national parks are iconic, the US has immense geographic and cultural diversity beyond them. Destinations like New Orleans, the California coast, or the unique high-desert landscapes of New Mexico offer experiences that are distinct from anything available in Canada.

Trump aside, the US hasn't been good stewards of their tourism in major cities. Las Vegas is bent on pricing itself out of reach and New Orleans apparently hasn't been the same since Katrina.

Re: Canadians promised to boycott travel to US. They meant it

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> Other than NYC and Utah-area national parks, I can't think of unique reasons for Canadians to vacation in the US specifically. While NYC and Utah Area national parks are iconic, the US has immense geographic and cultural diversity beyond them. Destinations like New Orleans, the California coast, or the unique high-desert landscapes of New Mexico offer experiences that are distinct from anything available in Canada.

Trump aside, the US hasn't been good stewards of their tourism in major cities. Las Vegas is bent on pricing itself out of reach and New Orleans apparently hasn't been the same since Katrina.

I take your point, but I believe the U.S. brand has historically shown a strong ability to weather the types of challenges you mentioned. I’m actually quite optimistic that it can bounce back at least partially to its former standing relatively quickly once the current unrest subsides. Additionally, speaking as someone from outside North America, I find the unique appeal of New England to be a major draw also

Re: Canadians promised to boycott travel to US. They meant it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use eGates in the UK, same as me as a British citizen (as long as your passport's new enough, probably all of them by now) - that covers it doesn't it? Otherwise I'm not clear what 'pre-clearance' is skipping? Painless for me into Canada too.

No, they mean we actually clear US customs in Canada as non-US citizens.

That's what I thought until they mentioned Dublin etc., what does US customs have to do with those in the first place?

Re: Canadians promised to boycott travel to US. They meant it

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It's not really a promised or conscious boycott. It's after weighing the pros and cons, many of them intangible, the feeling is visiting the US right now could result in unpleasantness ... and if there is anything Canadians are adverse to it is unpleasantness. Anecdata: a friend of ours crossing the US border, despite being a VP at a bank, for her first time ever had to surrender her phone for examination by US borde…

Same here. I have friends in the US but I've resigned myself to not seeing them again for a long time because I won't subject myself to that amount of harassment. If ever a country hung out a giant "Please stay away, you're not welcome here" sign, this is it.

Re: Canadians promised to boycott travel to US. They meant it

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Surprised Canadians would pick the US as a tourist destination to begin with. Europe is cheaper and more fun. America's one advantage: nature, is matched and at times exceeded by Canada. Flights to warm places like Miami and SD take just as long as Mexico or the Caribbean. Other than NYC and Utah-area national parks, I can't think of unique reasons for Canadians to vacation in the US specifically.

I did a two week trip through Southern Utah and northern Arizona two years ago and it was amazing. I loved it, the scenery was incredible and I would love my parents to make the same trip to share what I experienced. They recently outfitted their truck with a camper in the back and have been enjoying long roadtrips in their retirement and it would be a perfect trip for them.

But they have zero interest in going. Part of it is fear and uncertainty about the situation there currently, but another part is just the sourness that the idea of visiting the US right now gives that kind of sucks the appeal out of such a trip.

There are other places they can visit, and Canada is indeed a lovely country in its own right, but I hope there is a time again where they can find joy in the idea of visiting the US and enjoying the beauty of the southwest before they are too old to really appreciate it.

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No, they mean we actually clear US customs in Canada as non-US citizens.

That's what I thought until they mentioned Dublin etc., what does US customs have to do with those in the first place?

The portion of Dublin airport that has flights to the US is officially American soil. You deal with customs in Dublin airport, and then arrive to a domestic terminal at your US destination. It's very helpful.

Re: Canadians promised to boycott travel to US. They meant it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what I thought until they mentioned Dublin etc., what does US customs have to do with those in the first place?

The portion of Dublin airport that has flights to the US is officially American soil. You deal with customs in Dublin airport, and then arrive to a domestic terminal at your US destination. It's very helpful.

But irrelevant in terms of where you might go on holiday from Canada?

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The portion of Dublin airport that has flights to the US is officially American soil. You deal with customs in Dublin airport, and then arrive to a domestic terminal at your US destination. It's very helpful.

But irrelevant in terms of where you might go on holiday from Canada?

I was pointing out the convenience of the process that may cause Canadians to enjoy flying to the US on holiday.

If you fly from London to Manchester, what happens when the plane lands? You get up and walk away, right? If you fly from London to Dubai, wouldn’t it be nice if you could just get up and walk away once the plane lands? Aren’t you tired of waiting in lines and ready to just fall into your hotel bed? Canadians can do that if they are flying to Miami or Los Angeles, but not Cabo San Lucas.

You could do this too if you flew from Dublin to New York, but not if you chose London to New York or Paris to New York.

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