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A word processor from 1990s for Atari ST/TOS is still supported by enthusiasts

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Re: A word processor from 1990s for Atari ST/TOS is still supported by enthusiasts

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those were the glory days of word processors, I used to have something similar on the Amiga. I'd still rather write on something like this than Word, Pages or Google Docs.

At least Word has an outline mode, GDocs is the worst. A text editor with markdown support is better than GDocs.

I don’t remember seeing the outline function on the online version of Word.

Re: A word processor from 1990s for Atari ST/TOS is still supported by enthusiasts

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post #13

I used Application System Heidelberg's Script II on an Atari 1040STFM with 72 Hz SM 124 black/white monitor and an Epson LQ 550 24 pin printer. That was some superb publishing system for the time (1991), for a low budget. 1 MB RAM, 1.44 MB floppy drive SM 124: 640x400 pixels, monochrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_ST https://www.atarimuseum.de/1040st.htm The software used a special driver to get better than s…

> "The software used a special driver to get better than standard quality from the then most common 24 pin printers (laser printers where much expensive) by kind of double-printing, I forgot the details. It looked really good though." In opening up a few ancient files to answer another question about formatting, I found some long forgotten notes on how to make my Epson LQ400 24 pin printer work at 360dpi rather 180dp…

I remember some printers had a "draft" mode and a "fine" mode (and you could simulate the fine even on those that didn't by printing, and then carefully going back and printing again but off by a tiny, tiny bit vertically).

Re: A word processor from 1990s for Atari ST/TOS is still supported by enthusiasts

#43
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those were the glory days of word processors, I used to have something similar on the Amiga. I'd still rather write on something like this than Word, Pages or Google Docs.

At least Word has an outline mode, GDocs is the worst. A text editor with markdown support is better than GDocs.

Google Docs is in fact a text editor with Markdown support, see https://support.google.com/docs/answer/12014036

Re: A word processor from 1990s for Atari ST/TOS is still supported by enthusiasts

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those were the glory days of word processors, I used to have something similar on the Amiga. I'd still rather write on something like this than Word, Pages or Google Docs.

At least Word has an outline mode, GDocs is the worst. A text editor with markdown support is better than GDocs.

Word's outline mode is a sham. You can't export the text in the outline format. Stupid AF.

Word used to be a great product. Today it's a shambolic testament to incompetent design and dereliction.

Re: A word processor from 1990s for Atari ST/TOS is still supported by enthusiasts

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post #13

I used Application System Heidelberg's Script II on an Atari 1040STFM with 72 Hz SM 124 black/white monitor and an Epson LQ 550 24 pin printer. That was some superb publishing system for the time (1991), for a low budget. 1 MB RAM, 1.44 MB floppy drive SM 124: 640x400 pixels, monochrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_ST https://www.atarimuseum.de/1040st.htm The software used a special driver to get better than s…

Similar technique was used in Daisy Dot II

https://www.atarimagazines.com/v7n3/daisydot2.php

Re: A word processor from 1990s for Atari ST/TOS is still supported by enthusiasts

#46
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least Word has an outline mode, GDocs is the worst. A text editor with markdown support is better than GDocs.

I don’t remember seeing the outline function on the online version of Word.

It’s maddening that the Windows, macOS, iOS and web versions of Word all have completely random subsets of functionality.

Re: A word processor from 1990s for Atari ST/TOS is still supported by enthusiasts

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post #34

I still have the printed documentation and floppy for Tempus, the editor which I think is the predecessor to the linked word processor. It was blazing fast because it had been written in 68000 assembly IIRC. Even then it would handle giant documents with ease.

You might contact the OP and see if they want the floppy or manual.

Re: A word processor from 1990s for Atari ST/TOS is still supported by enthusiasts

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post #40

I wish WriteNow was similarly available/supported --- it was probably one of the last major applications written in assembly language (~100,000 lines). XyWrite is supported in a similar fashion: https://mendelson.org/xywin.html (but I just helped folks use that, never actually found it comfortable myself). I kind of wish all these small/tight/efficient programs could be gathered up and ported to an optimized OS for t…

It's too bad the architecture is different, a Raspberry Pi compatible with peak Win98SE software would be an amazing low-power computer. There were tons of amazingly well-made commercial software packages that have just been lost to time; in a large part due to open-source and other free options getting "good enough" - but many had features that simply don't exist anymore.

I used to run Wordstar 2.0 under Wine, and it was smooth. 3d Museum, Dancing Hearts, etc. will 'just work'.

That Raspberry probably can run all the peak Win98SE stuff, today.

Re: A word processor from 1990s for Atari ST/TOS is still supported by enthusiasts

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post #4

The list of features is impressive even today! https://tempus-word.de/en/info/index

"Tempus-Word NG uses a generally different data structure than other text processing applications. Because of this, Tempus-Word NG can handle documents with more than 1000 pages with almost the same speed that it does with one with ten pages. The number of pages and speed are only limited by the available memory and processor speed. To achieve good results, you should use an ATARI with minimum 8 MB memory and 16 MHz, PC with 300 MHz and 64 MB, or comparable Mac. If you want to use huge dictionaries or many images, more memory is always useful."

Does anyone know what data structure? Why not use it in modern word processors?

The other features are impressive too:

* Tempus-Word NG is based on a frame orientated layout similar to DTP programs. But contrasted to the usual method of “draw frame - connect frames - flow text” you create a general frame layout that is used automatically during text input. The positions of all layed-out frames is repeated automatically on all pages with this layout. You can create as many layouts as you want.

* Integrated Database

* Document manager

* Page numbering of Contents and Index listings are always up to date.

Re: A word processor from 1990s for Atari ST/TOS is still supported by enthusiasts

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post #15
post #4

The list of features is impressive even today! https://tempus-word.de/en/info/index

Those were the glory days of word processors, I used to have something similar on the Amiga. I'd still rather write on something like this than Word, Pages or Google Docs.

> I used to have something similar on the Amiga

Same, don't remember the name though. But it was WYSIWIG and I'd use it to create character sheets for our D&D games. And then I'd print them on a dot-matrix printer on continuous paper. Oh the memories!

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