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State Attorneys General Want to Tie Online Access to ID

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Re: State Attorneys General Want to Tie Online Access to ID

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Post by c22 »

dynm wrote: post #30

What I find puzzling about these proposals is that it SEEMS like they could be designed to achieve 90% of the stated goals with almost 0% of the loss of privacy. The idea would be that devices could "opt in" to safety rather than opt out. Allow parents to purchase a locked-down device that always includes a "kids" flag whenever it requests online information, and simply require online services to not provide kid-unfr…

Better yet, require online services to send a 'not for kids' flag along with any restricted content then let families configure their devices however they want.

Even better, make the flags granular: , , ,

13+, profane language, user, text

17+, violence, self, video

18+, unmoderated content, user, text

13+, drug themes, self, audio

and so on...

Re: State Attorneys General Want to Tie Online Access to ID

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Post by rockskon »

halJordan wrote: post #32
dwedge wrote: post #2

It's tiring how legislation like this is becoming predictable and feels inevitable. This article even mentions the verification needing to be embedded in the operating system itself, spelling the death of open computing

It's already the law in California. I don't remember any outrage here when it was passed there.

No it isn't. There is no law in California that mandates showing an ID to see ambiguously-defined adult content.

Re: State Attorneys General Want to Tie Online Access to ID

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Post by rockskon »

sixtyj wrote: post #16
dwedge wrote: post #2

It's tiring how legislation like this is becoming predictable and feels inevitable. This article even mentions the verification needing to be embedded in the operating system itself, spelling the death of open computing

Some people have been saying for so long that you should need a license to use the internet, and now that we have it, it's a little different than we intended :(

We don't have it yet and there is still time to head this off. Not much time - but still time! Talk to your federal lawmakers and state AG's office!

Re: State Attorneys General Want to Tie Online Access to ID

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Post by user3939382 »

c22 wrote: post #41
dynm wrote: post #30

What I find puzzling about these proposals is that it SEEMS like they could be designed to achieve 90% of the stated goals with almost 0% of the loss of privacy. The idea would be that devices could "opt in" to safety rather than opt out. Allow parents to purchase a locked-down device that always includes a "kids" flag whenever it requests online information, and simply require online services to not provide kid-unfr…

Better yet, require online services to send a 'not for kids' flag along with any restricted content then let families configure their devices however they want. Even better, make the flags granular: , , , 13+, profane language, user, text 17+, violence, self, video 18+, unmoderated content, user, text 13+, drug themes, self, audio and so on...

Internet Explorer had content ratings back in the day

Re: State Attorneys General Want to Tie Online Access to ID

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Post by rockskon »

rolph wrote: post #27
rockskon wrote: post #21

If this really bothers you, talk to your state AG's office and your federal lawmaker The worst that can happen is you don't change things. The best? Maybe you'll find a receptive ear. Your lawmaker stops co-sponsoring KOSA. Your state AG stops pushing for it.

i think the worst that can happen is you could be put on a list of dissention.

A list of people who dissent to KOSA is not a bad list to be on as a constituent.

You need to make it easier for your lawmakers to be on that list too. Show them there's people who won't rake them over the coals for bowing out.

Re: State Attorneys General Want to Tie Online Access to ID

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Post by struant »

c22 wrote: post #41
dynm wrote: post #30

What I find puzzling about these proposals is that it SEEMS like they could be designed to achieve 90% of the stated goals with almost 0% of the loss of privacy. The idea would be that devices could "opt in" to safety rather than opt out. Allow parents to purchase a locked-down device that always includes a "kids" flag whenever it requests online information, and simply require online services to not provide kid-unfr…

Better yet, require online services to send a 'not for kids' flag along with any restricted content then let families configure their devices however they want. Even better, make the flags granular: , , , 13+, profane language, user, text 17+, violence, self, video 18+, unmoderated content, user, text 13+, drug themes, self, audio and so on...

Just say the whole internet is not for kids without adult supervision and leave it at that.

It doesn't even matter if you can get something that technically works. Half the "age appropriate" content targeted at children is horrifying brainrot. Hardcore pornography would be less damaging to them.

Just supervise your damn children people.

Re: State Attorneys General Want to Tie Online Access to ID

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Post by hammock »

rolph wrote: post #27
rockskon wrote: post #21

If this really bothers you, talk to your state AG's office and your federal lawmaker The worst that can happen is you don't change things. The best? Maybe you'll find a receptive ear. Your lawmaker stops co-sponsoring KOSA. Your state AG stops pushing for it.

i think the worst that can happen is you could be put on a list of dissention.

Isn’t that the point? Our lawmakers keep track of how many constituents approve or disapprove of pending legislation so they can act accordingly

Re: State Attorneys General Want to Tie Online Access to ID

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Post by Trasmatta »

rolph wrote: post #27
rockskon wrote: post #21

If this really bothers you, talk to your state AG's office and your federal lawmaker The worst that can happen is you don't change things. The best? Maybe you'll find a receptive ear. Your lawmaker stops co-sponsoring KOSA. Your state AG stops pushing for it.

i think the worst that can happen is you could be put on a list of dissention.

Don't comply in advance

Re: State Attorneys General Want to Tie Online Access to ID

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Post by ImHereToVote »

dynm wrote: post #30

What I find puzzling about these proposals is that it SEEMS like they could be designed to achieve 90% of the stated goals with almost 0% of the loss of privacy. The idea would be that devices could "opt in" to safety rather than opt out. Allow parents to purchase a locked-down device that always includes a "kids" flag whenever it requests online information, and simply require online services to not provide kid-unfr…

You are assuming good faith. This is why you are puzzled.
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