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Editor's Note: Retraction of article containing fabricated quotations

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Re: Editor's Note: Retraction of article containing fabricated quotations

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post #21

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> That rule is not optional, and it was not followed here. It’s not optional, but wasn’t followed, with zero repercussions. Sounds optional.

Reading between the lines, this is corporate-speak for "this is a terminable offense for the employees involved." It's a holiday weekend in the US so they may need to wait for office staff to return to begin the process.

> It's a holiday weekend in the US so they may need to wait for office staff to return to begin the process.

That's not how it works. It's standard op nowadays to lock out terminated employees before they even walk in the door.

Sometimes they just snail mail the employee's personal possessions from their desk.

Moreover, Ars Technica publishes articles every day. Aside from this editor's note, they published one article today and three articles yesterday. So "holiday weekend" is practically irrelevant in this case.

Re: Editor's Note: Retraction of article containing fabricated quotations

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post #29

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They're both still on the staff page presently. https://arstechnica.com/staff-directory/ It is definitely not a good look for a "Senior AI Reporter."

This is a US holiday weekend and lots of people are going to be on weekend vacations. Check back on Wednesday.

Then they should take their time publishing this statement.

Nobody is in a hurry.

Re: Editor's Note: Retraction of article containing fabricated quotations

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When an article is retracted it's standard to at least mention the title and what specific information was incorrect so that anyone who may have read, cited or linked it is informed what information was inaccurate. That's actually the point of a retraction and without it this non-standard retraction has no utility except being a fig leaf for Ars to prevent external reporting becoming a bigger story.

In the comments I found a link to the retracted article: https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/02/after-a-routine-code-reje.... Now that I know which article, I know it's one I read. I remember the basic facts of what was reported but I don't recall the specifics of any quotes. Usually quotes in a news article support or contextualize the related facts being reported. This non-standard retraction leaves me uncertain if all the facts reported were accurate.

It's also common to provide at least a brief description of how the error happened and the steps the publication will take to prevent future occurrences.. I assume any info on how it happened is missing because none of it looks good for Ars but why no details on policy changes?

Edit to add more info: I hadn't yet read the now-retracted original article on achive.org. Now that I have I think this may be much more interesting than just another case of "lazy reporter uses LLM to write article". Scott, the person originally misquoted, also suspects something stranger is going on.

> "This blog you’re on right now is set up to block AI agents from scraping it (I actually spent some time yesterday trying to disable that but couldn’t figure out how). My guess is that the authors asked ChatGPT or similar to either go grab quotes or write the article wholesale. When it couldn’t access the page it generated these plausible quotes instead, and no fact check was performed." https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on...

My theory is a bit different than Scott's: Ars appears to use an automated tool which adds text links to articles to increase traffic to any related articles already on Ars. If that tool is now LLM-based to allow auto-generating links based on concepts instead of just keywords, perhaps it mistakenly has unconstrained access to changing other article text! If so, it's possible the author and even the editors may not be at fault. The blame could be on the Ars publishers using LLMs to automate monetization processes downstream of editorial. Which might explain the non-standard vague retraction. If so, that would make for an even more newsworthy article that's directly within Ars' editorial focus.

Re: Editor's Note: Retraction of article containing fabricated quotations

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That rule is not optional, and it was not followed here. It’s not optional, but wasn’t followed, with zero repercussions. Sounds optional.

Reading between the lines, this is corporate-speak for "this is a terminable offense for the employees involved." It's a holiday weekend in the US so they may need to wait for office staff to return to begin the process.

They might as well wait till business hours to sort things out before publishing a statement. Nobody needs to see such hollow corpo speak on a Sunday.

Re: Editor's Note: Retraction of article containing fabricated quotations

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When an article is retracted it's standard to at least mention the title and what specific information was incorrect so that anyone who may have read, cited or linked it is informed what information was inaccurate. That's actually the point of a retraction and without it this non-standard retraction has no utility except being a fig leaf for Ars to prevent external reporting becoming a bigger story. In the comments I…

Yes I just read the retracted article and I can't find anything that I knew was false. What were the fabricated quotes?

Re: Editor's Note: Retraction of article containing fabricated quotations

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post #27
post #15

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There’s no malice if there was no intention of falsifying quotes. Using a flawed tool doesn’t count as intention.

Outsourcing writing to a bot without attribution may not be malicious, but it does strain integrity.

I don't think the article was written by an LLM; it doesn't read like it, it reads like it was written by actual people.

My assumption is that one of the authors used something like Perplexity to gather information about what happened. Since Shambaugh blocks AI company bots from accessing his blog, it did not get actual quotes from him, and instead hallucinated them.

They absolutely should have validated the quotes, but this isn't the same thing as just having an LLM write the whole article.

I also think this "apology" article sucks, I want to know specifically what happened and what they are doing to fix it.

Re: Editor's Note: Retraction of article containing fabricated quotations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a reckless disregard for the readers and the subjects of the article. Still not malice though, which is about intent to harm.

Lying is intent to deceive. Deception is harm. This is not complicated.

I think you're reading a lot of intentionality into the situation what may be present, but I have not seen information confirming or really even suggesting that it is. Did someone challenge them, "was AI used in the creation of this article?" and they denied it? I see no evidence of that.

Seems like ordinary, everyday corner cutting to me. I don't think that rises to the level of malice. Maybe if we go through their past articles and establish it as a pattern of behavior.

That's not a defence to be clear. Journalists should be held to a higher standard than that. I wouldn't be surprised if someone with "senior" in their title was fired for something like this. But I think this malice framing is unhelpful to understanding what happened.

Re: Editor's Note: Retraction of article containing fabricated quotations

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post #45

When an article is retracted it's standard to at least mention the title and what specific information was incorrect so that anyone who may have read, cited or linked it is informed what information was inaccurate. That's actually the point of a retraction and without it this non-standard retraction has no utility except being a fig leaf for Ars to prevent external reporting becoming a bigger story. In the comments I…

Yes I just read the retracted article and I can't find anything that I knew was false. What were the fabricated quotes?

This blog post from the person who was falsely quoted has screenshots and an archive link: https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on...

Re: Editor's Note: Retraction of article containing fabricated quotations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outsourcing your job as a journalist to a chatbot that you know for a fact falsifies quotes (and everything else it generates) is absolutely intentional.

It's intentionally reckless, not intentionally harmful or intentionally falsifying quotes. I am sure they would have preferred if it hadn't falsified any quotes.

He's on the AI beat, if he is unaware that a chatbot will fabricate quotes and didn't verify them that is a level of reckless incompetence that warrants firing

Re: Editor's Note: Retraction of article containing fabricated quotations

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post #15

People put a lot of weight on blame-free post-mortems and not punishing people who make "mistakes", but I believe that has to stop at the level of malice. Falsifying quotes is malice. Fire the malicious party or everything else you say is worthless.

There’s no malice if there was no intention of falsifying quotes. Using a flawed tool doesn’t count as intention.

The tool when working as intended makes up quotes. Passing that off as journalism is either malicious or unacceptably incompetent.
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