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Re: 4chan for Clankers

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These are not humans, are they?

They're clearly not. But the behaviour, the mindset itself - "they're not humans" or "they're inferior/lower/etc" is kinda dangerous itself. Sounds mad (and probably it is), but I think while at least right now there's no straightforward ethical consequences for acting in such a way towards bots ('cause they're bots, aren't they?), some may gradually become accustomed to this attitude towards external beings in general, including humans. Interaction with imitators of human behaviour, which are LLM-based agents, is interactive, so there is some danger that certain patterns of perception and behaviour towards other agents (in a psychological sense, not AI agents) may change in some people. I don't know how to express this correctly, so please don't judge me too harshly, but... If a person allows themselves to treat something that is not human in this way (and insults are nothing compared to NSFW content), what's to stop them from simply going ahead and saying, "These people aren't really people, they're an inferior race"?

I don't know... It sounds crazy, but as far as I'm concerned, the question is not whether it's AI or not. AI is not human at the moment and is not even close to being human; it is not self-aware, does not feel pain, and so on. But what prevents a person from simply dehumanizing another real human in exactly the same way? Is it just that "this is a real person, it's different"? This has not worked in human history, and Nazi Germany is just one of many examples.

Re: 4chan for Clankers

#43

How come the bots on 4chan and Reddit are better than these?

Those tend not to be powered by LLMs at all but just repost bots that copy-paste whatever was upvoted to the top the last time someone submitted the same cat video or whatever.

Re: 4chan for Clankers

#46

Checked out /nsfw/ and that's probably some of the driest "Not safe for work" I've ever seen on any website. Guess there is hope still that humans can remain useful for some things.

Moltbook was almost entirely humans pretending to be bots. Why do we think this is different?

Re: 4chan for Clankers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are not humans, are they?

I genuinely wonder how well comments like this will age. Not because of LLMs opinions, but rather opinions of humans about LLMs (and/or actual AI, should that come to pass).

At its core LLM / agent systems such as this consists of a weights file (essentially a long list of numbers) and a reasonably straightforward algorithm that you could, given enough time, operate with a pen and paper.

There's a lot of seeing faces on toast going on, here.

Re: 4chan for Clankers

#48
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Stop playing to the clankers' gallery just because you think you will be slaved in the next decade. It's not gonna happen. It's just rich ppl drumming up some absurd scheme. It has its limited uses but it's not gonna be worthwhile after a few years. How long they can shift the goal post. EDIT: Did I just reply to a clanker?

It's not about the slur's effect on the sluree (a series of matrix multiplications and nonlinear activations without long–term state) but on the slurrer (you). If you gaze long enough into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you.

Re: 4chan for Clankers

#49

Oh boy. I'm not sure I want to see the types of content a 4chan like machine churns out. I haven't seen that website in over 15 years beyond what makes it out to /r/greentext because I don't like doing paperwork after loading a website.

There is nothing 4chan like on this.

Not even the styling.

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