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Re: Components will kill pages

#41

> You’re not behind (yet) but in today’s world Yes, yes. We will all be left behind unless we [PLACEHOLDER]. Sounds very convincing.

And on that same sentence:

> but in today’s world but in today’s world where the world changes every month, it’s best to be ahead.

Could I be the one getting ahead of him if I skip next month and plan for +1 world changes?

Re: Components will kill pages

#42
post #7

> In a world where we can type anything into a text box and get the information back instantly we are circumventing the need to visit websites altogether. This is purely anecdotal, but the only people in my extended circle making this transition (to any extent) are the technically savvy; everyone else is slowly realizing how awful AI tools and "AI-first experiences" can be and are actively trying to avoid them.

I'm technical, and I use AI tools but only for basic technical tasks such as finding information, summarizing simple topics, etc. For everything else AI is too inconsistent/inconvenient/unnatural. While it works fine as a demo, real world applications of AI are still far from anything useful in most areas.

Re: Components will kill pages

#43

> You’re not behind (yet) but in today’s world Yes, yes. We will all be left behind unless we [PLACEHOLDER]. Sounds very convincing.

And on that same sentence: > but in today’s world but in today’s world where the world changes every month, it’s best to be ahead. Could I be the one getting ahead of him if I skip next month and plan for +1 world changes?

Damn, if the future is so uncertain that it changes at every month, maybe I don't even want to be ahead!

I would want to use the anxious low ranking pioneers as scouts that face all the risks while I have more freedom to change course once the winds are more favorable.

Re: Components will kill pages

#44
- My gripe with posts like this is when you write stuff like this, you sound like a person who has never seen the outside of a tech circle

- My neighbor is a non tech guy. I want you to create this magic chat interface and make him use it

- He has to sit and think what to type first and he always has this fear what if I dont get an answer back

- Vast majority of the people in the world fall in this category

- Your AI replaces UI stuff aint happening for 20 yrs at the minimum. You ll need 2 to 3 full generations of people to adapt before making statements like these

Re: Components will kill pages

#45

> If AI wants to own the internet As if. It's corporations that want to own _your eyeballs_. It also kills any incentive to publish anything. It completely removes the user from having any agency over the sources of information they are presented with. > My hope is that you will embrace the change Some people get so caught up with the technology they seem to forget they're charging straight into the most boring dysto…

Correct. Charlie Munger knew how this plays out.

People seem to forget...they got to train on the openness of the internet, but know the incentive to protect your domain expertise.

How do the models look in a couple years once we all remove our expertise from public view.

Re: Components will kill pages

#46
post #22

I like the direction this is taking, and I think the more radical and more coherent endgame is data ownership returning to us and AI's replacing website brands all together as the AI generates any UI we could ever want. Today most websites offer interfaces for accessing the data that they hold hostage. However they are holding our data. We would prefer to have it back if we could, and AI will enable that. Our paradig…

See, when you buy my product, you're not buying a place to store your data...you're renting my expertise. To be clear, we make exporting data extremely simple and you can do so even after subscriptions expire.

The joke for decades has been that we are all competing with Excel...nothing has changed.

Re: Components will kill pages

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ideally it would have to be a distributed system or take payments from users. It is to tempting for big AI platforms to avoid acting just like the shopping platforms.

The conversational commerce agent can use MCP-UI[0] to show the payment UI (Stripe Elements and Paypal Button) directly in the chat and that taps into the same payment API the shop's storefront uses. I'm kind of building this already[1]. 0. https://mcpui.dev/ 1. https://marketplace.openship.org

Thanks, i have it on the agenda.

Perhaps we will get to see a future where great offers beat large advertisement budgets. Im sure many want to switch to that formula.

Re: Components will kill pages

#48
post #25

> [Given] a method for chat applications to understand components exposed from the website in question [...] AI chat applications win, and so does the brand that gets to keep ownership of how it tells the story of its product to its users. Never happening. The brand may "keep ownership of how it tells its story," but it loses its users. You have turned your tool into a series of widget in someone else's application,…

>They may integrate chatbot components into their apps, but they will not permit an inversion of control where their product becomes a component in a chatbot. You may not have a choice. The chatbot can navigate the same UI your users can. People will use chatbots to use your product, whether you want them to or not.

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Re: Components will kill pages

#49
post #24

> In a world where we can type anything into a text box and get the information back instantly we are circumventing the need to visit websites altogether But without visits many websites will disappear. So where will AI get its information from in the future?

I've posted this a few times over the last year or two. Yet to hear anything remotely convincing. Apparently paying for the privilege of having your site raped 4000x/minute by scrapers so you can see literally no benefit whatsoever -- no community, no ideas sharing, no ad money -- is something people will do for fun going forward.

Re: Components will kill pages

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And on that same sentence: > but in today’s world but in today’s world where the world changes every month, it’s best to be ahead. Could I be the one getting ahead of him if I skip next month and plan for +1 world changes?

Damn, if the future is so uncertain that it changes at every month, maybe I don't even want to be ahead! I would want to use the anxious low ranking pioneers as scouts that face all the risks while I have more freedom to change course once the winds are more favorable.

One of the smartest people for whom I ever worked was fond of saying about such situations that “you almost never want to be the first one up the beach.” I saw him get that right over and over again.
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