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Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

dismalaf wrote: post #14
ta9000 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d recommend trying Linux Mint with Steam.

Mint needs to die. It's the most ancient, archaic distro ever. Replacing something that's SOTA with something that still uses X11 and years old software isn't it (it makes Debian Stable look modern).

(Even if they're all true) Do any of those things matter to a user? If the goal is to ditch Windows and have something else that can run Steam and a web browser and maybe some other applications, being "ancient" sounds just as likely to mean "stable and actually works"

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by jajuuka »

cobolexpert wrote: post #35

Relevant comment from some months ago [1]. Personally I find that sticking to distros backed by companies or very large communities is just easier in the long term (Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora/Arch). [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46092225

On desktops and servers yeah. Bazzite was a bit of a special case as it was catered to handheld devices. So it did have that going for it. A one stop install that just supported everything on these devices from the start.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by rbtbisrespected »

hiprob wrote: post #37
micromacrofoot wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

was publicly being rude to the point of making other contributors leave (even after being asked to stop) and at least one case of using a slur they said it themselves in this post > Yes, I know I am hard to work with. Yes, I know that I pushed certain OSS contributors away. generally the kind of person that gives open source a bad reputation, you can be critical or anti-social without being an asshole

what about linus torvalds

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Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by hiccup_socks »

kevinrineer wrote: post #36
hiccup_socks wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Post Mortem" feels a bit like it's done in bad faith as it's usually applied to projects that are over. is it? outside of autopsies, i think i have only ever seen it used as a synonym for "incident report". i dont think ive ever associated the term specifically with the end of a project. e.g. cloudflare uses the tag for all of their incident reports ( https://blog.cloudflare.com/tag/post-mortem/ ), not as a signal…

> ... as a synonym for "incident report" People should stop using it as a synonym, then. The Latin effectively means "after death", meaning its a poor synonym for "what happened wrong recently".

>The Latin effectively means "after death"

language evolves over time

post mortem is even in dictionaries (meriam, oxford, american heritage) as "an analysis or review of a finished event"

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by tomth »

dismalaf wrote: post #14
ta9000 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d recommend trying Linux Mint with Steam.

Mint needs to die. It's the most ancient, archaic distro ever. Replacing something that's SOTA with something that still uses X11 and years old software isn't it (it makes Debian Stable look modern).

I've had issues with Wayland, even in 2025, but never with X11. X11 may be old, but it's stable. Mint is for normal people, not us. I do have it on my travel laptop though, because well, it never has any issues.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by maeln »

Sometimes I feel like Discord as been nothing but a bane on OSS. A chat is inherently less searchable than a wiki/forum/documentation, and those sources are often readable without needing to authenticate, which meant that you could find an answer through Google and such. Most project now don't bother with publicly readable and archivable (and so offline viewable) information sources and just rely on Discord. This lead to the same newbie question being answered over and over again, and is a clear degradation of the UX. But on top of that, most people see Discord as a hangout. Almost all Discord server I know have an "offtopic"/"random"/"meme"/etc channel, if not several. This almost inevitably lead to drama on a scale that newsgroups and IRC fellows could have only dreamed off. And considering that a lot of devs are able to create drama over even a mailing list, Discord is turbocharging the ability for nuisance.

Maybe it's my "Am I out of touch ? No it's the children who are wrong" moment, but I really think OSS projects would benefit from ditching discord.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by jajuuka »

dismalaf wrote: post #18
shantara wrote: post #13

It’s worth pointing out that the official Bazzite position is that Antheas was removed from the project for breaching Code of Conduct and harassing people in their official Discord server

[flagged]

Pretty much. He said some mean words. The cult of personality around the other maintainer has spun it into something way worse that he someone made other people quit OSS or something. It's hog wash and not backed up by anything.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by razighter777 »

This is pure dramaposting- "post-mortem" is so misleading and mischaracterizes the situation. I don't use bazzite, I don't know Kyle or anybody here, but I am tired of the drama.

All of the things listed in the blog are personal and technical disagreements, nothing morally reprehensible, no disrespect, nothing that would make anyone want to burn bridges like this.

It's fine to leave a project and to publicize disagreements but this comes across as spiteful.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by bee_rider »

jovial_cavalier wrote: post #15
sho_hn wrote: post #4

I understand there's been drama, and someone walked away or was pushed out. I don't quite care enough to understand it all or point at guilty parties. However, my current understanding is that the project remains active, so titling this article "Post Mortem" feels a bit like it's done in bad faith as it's usually applied to projects that are over. It's certainly what I immediately assumed made it newsworthy.

Antheas was the #1 most active developer, and responsible for almost all low level integrations.

Just based on this blog post it seems like he wanted the project to be more “professional” in some way that the rest of the developer group didn’t. I wonder if that difference in vision, combined with a (probably justified based on your comment) feeling that he was doing a disproportionate amount of the work lead to an unsustainable situation.

Calling it a post-mortem while others are continuing the project still seems kind of petty, though.

Re: Bazzite Post-Mortem

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Post by Cyph0n »

xd1936 wrote: post #17
ziml77 wrote: post #5

Glad I decided not to stick with Bazzite. I gave it a try a few months ago and had issues with Bazaar crashing (not at all low end hardware btw). If the primary method to install software was that broken on a fresh install, there was no way I was going to trust the OS at all, no matter how many people on YouTube and HN talked about how amazing it is.

What alternative did you switch to?

I never tried Bazzite, but have been using Jovian, which is a NixOS-based gaming setup.

I have heard that CachyOS (Arch) and Nobara (Fedora) are two other decent options.

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