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Post by jdjdndbdhsjsb »

AIorNot wrote: post #16
jdjdndbdhsjsb wrote: post #4

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Here is my bold prediction: 2026 is the year where companies start the lay offs. 2026 is the year where we all realise that we can be our own company and build the stuff in our dreams rather than the mundane crap we do at work. Honestly I am optimistic about computing in general. Llms will open things up for novices and experts alike. We can move into I the fields where we can use our brain power... But all we need i…

I don't know, its a bit of a hellscape in tech right now as thousands of people with deep domain knowledge and people knowledge and business knowledge (ie experienced engineers managers and product owners), were laid off by C Suites desperate to keep the AI funded mandates going Do you know how hard it to make a successful company or even make money? Its like saying any actor can goto hollywood and be a star VCs wont…

Yes it is. But I am an optimist for human nature. I personally believe smaller companies doing different things is the future... Scaling as they need. It is a hellscape but people can and will adapt.

> Do you know how hard it to make a successful company or even make money?

Yes I have failed to do it before. I get this.

> VCs wont fund everyone

And? Do you need VCs? Economics mean that scale matters but what if we don't need it. What if we can make efficient startups with our own funding??

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Post by jdjdndbdhsjsb »

Muromec wrote: post #18
jdjdndbdhsjsb wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is my bold prediction: 2026 is the year where companies start the lay offs. 2026 is the year where we all realise that we can be our own company and build the stuff in our dreams rather than the mundane crap we do at work. Honestly I am optimistic about computing in general. Llms will open things up for novices and experts alike. We can move into I the fields where we can use our brain power... But all we need i…

>Here is my bold prediction: 2026 is the year where companies start the lay offs. Start? Excuse moi

Yeah fair... But now it is different I.e. they won't regret it

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Post by bopbopbop7 »

Has there been any good and useful software created with LLMs or any increase in software quality that we can actually look at?

So far it's just AI doom posting, hype bloggers that haven't shipped anything, anecdotes without evidence, increase in CVEs, increase in outages, and degraded software quality.

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Post by heliumtera »

dt3ft wrote: post #34
heliumtera wrote: post #23

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But it is true, the cost is effectively zero. There will be, for a long time, free models available and any one of them will give you code back, always! They never refuse. Worst case scenario the good models ask for clarification. The cost for producing code is zero and code producers are in a really bad spot.

I beg to differ. Let's say you're right. Code producers should turn to agriculture and let their managers and product owners prompt AI to produce code. How about code maintainers? Ever heard the mantra "You build it, you run it"? Lets say that AI can build it. Can it run it though? All alone, safely, securely and reliably? No. It can't. We can keep dreaming though, and when will AI code production services turn profi…

Calm down buddy, maybe you're confusing code producers with something else. It's 2026 we don't bother with maintenance no more, we /new to keep context clean and start over. Just don't forget to comment - never delete - old code. Always keep dead code around to please shareholders, line numbers up always. We produce code, that is the main thing, never forget.

One could argue we could achieve the same goals by appending \n to a file in a loop, but this is inefficient nowadays with generous token offerings (but could change in the future than I highly suggest just outputting \n to a file an call it productivity increase)

I didn't understand your point about product owners. Who the fuck would ever need one when code produces itself?

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Post by oytis »

bopbopbop7 wrote: post #44

Has there been any good and useful software created with LLMs or any increase in software quality that we can actually look at? So far it's just AI doom posting, hype bloggers that haven't shipped anything, anecdotes without evidence, increase in CVEs, increase in outages, and degraded software quality.

Software quality has been degrading for decades without LLMs though.

I only have anecdotal evidence from some engineers I know that they don't write software by hand any more. Provided the software they are working on was useful before, we can say that LLMs are writing useful software now.

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Post by heliumtera »

bopbopbop7 wrote: post #37
heliumtera wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it is true, the cost is effectively zero. There will be, for a long time, free models available and any one of them will give you code back, always! They never refuse. Worst case scenario the good models ask for clarification. The cost for producing code is zero and code producers are in a really bad spot.

Because who cares about correct and compilable code, any code will do!

Exactly!

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Post by YZF »

falloutx wrote: post #38
YZF wrote: post #27

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Predictions - Small companies using AI are going to kick the sh*t out of large companies that are slow to adapt. - LLMs will penetrate more areas of our lives. Closer to the STTNG computer. They will be agents in the real life sense and possibly in the physical world as well (robots). - ASICs will eat nVidia's lunch. - We will see an explosion of software and we will also see more jobs for people who are able to main…

> Small companies using AI are going to kick the sh*t out of large companies that are slow to adapt. Big companies are sales machines and their products have been terrible for ages. Microsoft enjoys the top spot in software sales only due to their sales staff pushing impossible deals every year.

It's true the big company products have been terrible but they also enjoyed a moat that made it harder for competitors to enter.

With this moat reduced I think you'll find this approach doesn't work any more. The smaller companies will also hire the good sales people away.

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Post by [deleted] »

oytis wrote: post #46
bopbopbop7 wrote: post #44

Has there been any good and useful software created with LLMs or any increase in software quality that we can actually look at? So far it's just AI doom posting, hype bloggers that haven't shipped anything, anecdotes without evidence, increase in CVEs, increase in outages, and degraded software quality.

Software quality has been degrading for decades without LLMs though. I only have anecdotal evidence from some engineers I know that they don't write software by hand any more. Provided the software they are working on was useful before, we can say that LLMs are writing useful software now.

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