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My AI Adoption Journey

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Re: My AI Adoption Journey

#41

There are so many stories about how people use agentic AI but they rarely post how much they spend. Before I can even consider it, I need to know how it will cost me per month. I'm currently using one pro subscription and it's already quite expensive for me. What are people doing, burning hundreds of dollars per month? Do they also evaluate how much value they get out of it?

Low hundreds ($190 for me) but yes.

Re: My AI Adoption Journey

#42
post #8

> Break down sessions into separate clear, actionable tasks. Don't try to "draw the owl" in one mega session. This is the key one I think. At one extreme you can tell an agent "write a for loop that iterates over the variable `numbers` and computes the sum" and they'll do this successfully, but the scope is so small there's not much point in using an LLM. On the other extreme you can tell an agent "make me an app tha…

> On the other extreme you can tell an agent "make me an app that's Facebook for dogs" and it'll make so many assumptions about the architecture, code and product that there's no chance it produces anything useful beyond a cool prototype to show mom and dad.

Amusingly, this was my experience in giving Lovable a shot. The onboarding process was literally just setting me up for failure by asking me to describe the detailed app I was attempting to build.

Taking it piece by piece in Claude Code has been significantly more successful.

Re: My AI Adoption Journey

#43
post #8

> Break down sessions into separate clear, actionable tasks. Don't try to "draw the owl" in one mega session. This is the key one I think. At one extreme you can tell an agent "write a for loop that iterates over the variable `numbers` and computes the sum" and they'll do this successfully, but the scope is so small there's not much point in using an LLM. On the other extreme you can tell an agent "make me an app tha…

I actually enjoy writing specifications. So much so that I made it a large part of my consulting work for a huge part of my career. SO it makes sense that working with Gen-AI that way is enjoyable for me.

The more detailed I am in breaking down chunks, the easier it is for me to verify and the more likely I am going to get output that isn't 30% wrong.

Re: My AI Adoption Journey

#45
I find it interesting that this thread is full of pragmatic posts that seem to honestly reflect the real limits of current Gen-Ai.

Versus other threads (here on HN, and especially on places like LinkedIn) where it's "I set up a pipeline and some agents and now I type two sentences and amazing technology comes out in 5 minutes that would have taken 3 devs 6 months to do".

Re: My AI Adoption Journey

#46

For the AI skeptics reading this, there is an overwhelming probability that Mitchell is a better developer than you. If he gets value out of these tools you should think about why you can't.

Perhaps that's the reason. Maybe I'm just not a good enough developer. But that's still not actionable. It's not like I never considered being a better developer.

Re: My AI Adoption Journey

#47
post #8

> Break down sessions into separate clear, actionable tasks. Don't try to "draw the owl" in one mega session. This is the key one I think. At one extreme you can tell an agent "write a for loop that iterates over the variable `numbers` and computes the sum" and they'll do this successfully, but the scope is so small there's not much point in using an LLM. On the other extreme you can tell an agent "make me an app tha…

Exactly. The LLMs are quite good at "code inpainting", eg "give me the outline/constraints/rules and I'll fill-in the blanks"

But not so good at making (robust) new features out of the blue

Re: My AI Adoption Journey

#48
> a period of inefficiency

I think this is something people ignore, and is significant. The only way to get good at coding with LLMs is actually trying to do it. Even if it's inefficient or slower at first. It's just another skill to develop [0].

And it's not really about using all the plugins and features available. In fact, many plugins and features are counter-productive. Just learn how to prompt and steer the LLM better.

[0]: https://ricardoanderegg.com/posts/getting-better-coding-llms...

Re: My AI Adoption Journey

#49
> I'm not [yet?] running multiple agents, and currently don't really want to

This is the main reason to use AI agents, though: multitasking. If I'm working on some Terraform changes and I fire off an agent loop, I know it's going to take a while for it to produce something working. In the meantime I'm waiting for it to come back and pretend it's finished (really I'll have to fix it), so I start another agent on something else. I flip back and forth between the finished runs as they notify me. At the end of the day I have 5 things finished rather than two.

The "agent" doesn't have to be anything special either. Anything you can run in a VM or container (vscode w/copilot chat, any cli tool, etc) so you can enable YOLO mode.

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