American government cash transfers overwhelmingly skew rural with the caveat that income maintenance is a smaller slice of the pie.
This report illustrates rural cash transfers beautifully: https://eig.org/great-transfermation/
Launching the Rural Guaranteed Minimum Income Initiative
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#42This honestly rubs me the wrong way. I have very close friends who mightily struggle financially but they are always just outside the threshold for assistance. Basic statistics don't capture the people who are barely making it or living on debt.
The appeal to me of UBI was always that it was highlighting that everyone needs their basic needs met. The moderately paid worker barely making rent in SF needs the money as much as anybody but would never pass a means test.
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#43This is better than nothing, but the big advantage of the UBI is that there is no bureaucracy deciding who gets it and doesn't get it. If there are any conditions on the income, then there's a constant danger that the program will become another tool of control.
Feb 1: receive monthly UBI payment Feb 2: spend all of it on strippers/drugs/alcohol/twinkies/etc. Feb 3: I'm hungry. Unless you are prepared to let the idiots starve to death, UBI will never work.
I also like getting angry at situations I made up in my head
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#44Mary Gates?
A gentleman named Luke said “For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall much be required” a long time ago.
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#45This is better than nothing, but the big advantage of the UBI is that there is no bureaucracy deciding who gets it and doesn't get it. If there are any conditions on the income, then there's a constant danger that the program will become another tool of control.
Feb 1: receive monthly UBI payment Feb 2: spend all of it on strippers/drugs/alcohol/twinkies/etc. Feb 3: I'm hungry. Unless you are prepared to let the idiots starve to death, UBI will never work.
Feb 1: receive monthly paycheck Feb 2: spend all of it on strippers/drugs/alcohol/twinkies/etc. Feb 3: I'm hungry.
Unless you are prepared to let the wagies starve to death, wages will never work.
Or to put it in less sarcastic terms: Why would UBI payments be more likely to be squandered than any other monthly payments? Especially by people who can't afford food without it. Are there any studies that show such behavior?
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Feb 1: receive monthly UBI payment Feb 2: spend all of it on strippers/drugs/alcohol/twinkies/etc. Feb 3: I'm hungry. Unless you are prepared to let the idiots starve to death, UBI will never work.
Feb 1: receive monthly paycheck Feb 2: spend all of it on strippers/drugs/alcohol/twinkies/etc. Feb 3: I'm hungry. Unless you are prepared to let the wagies starve to death, wages will never work. Or to put it in less sarcastic terms: Why would UBI payments be more likely to be squandered than any other monthly payments? Especially by people who can't afford food without it. Are there any studies that show such behav…
EDIT: Wow, I misread.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Feb 1: receive monthly paycheck Feb 2: spend all of it on strippers/drugs/alcohol/twinkies/etc. Feb 3: I'm hungry. Unless you are prepared to let the wagies starve to death, wages will never work. Or to put it in less sarcastic terms: Why would UBI payments be more likely to be squandered than any other monthly payments? Especially by people who can't afford food without it. Are there any studies that show such behav…
EDIT: Wow, I misread.
> in reply to your downvoted post
Huh? My post? It's not.
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#49Re: Launching the Rural Guaranteed Minimum Income Initiative
#50Why rural Americans? The same amount of cash will go a lot further and likely be more effective in rural areas of other countries. The source of Atwood's wealth (Stack Overflow etc) is global, not American.
Because this is not about charity, but about politics. Specifically demonstration with the intention of advocacy. The advocacy falls down when the demonstration is less applicable.