> The French government… announced last week that 2.5 million civil servants would stop using video conference tools from U.S. providers — including Zoom, Microsoft Teams, Webex and GoTo Meeting — by 2027 and switch to Visio, a homegrown service.
France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
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Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
#42There seems to be a huge business opportunity in Europe right now, to sell support and customization of open source software to government players. Has anyone heard about a European company that’s been successful in this area?
Yeah, this is a win/win opportunity and could drive more sponsorship of those projects as there'd be more interests invested in seeing them thrive.
Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
#43It's all fun and games until there's an outage, nothing screams efficient like a state-owned tech company
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#44Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
#45In favor of what? I’m all for economic nationalism, but you have to have competitive home grown alternatives. Does Europe have them? Or are they going to shoot themselves in the foot productivity-wise by boycotting the best products?
The best products like Microsoft Teams? Let's be honest, a lot of the software they've replaced has a checkered past
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#46As an American, I will echo Trump's speech at Davos. We want strong allies, not vassals. Be capable of building your own EVs, your own rockets, your own fighter jets, your own subway systems, your own zoom alternatives, your own search engines, your own operating systems, etc etc.
Make Europe great again. Bring back creativity. Bring back jobs. Build a talented workforce that stays local instead of migrating to the US. Be independent. Stand tall. Do all of these things and preferrably do them now.
America and China's rise shouldnt be zero sum. It should lift the world. Europe forged the path we all follow. Come back to it.
Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
#47Are those US software firms still obligated to comply with EU restrictions and legal demands if they are banned/barred/fascisticly_denied_the_option_to_compete by one or more EU territories?
Isn't it reasonable to block access to countries that deny you the option to compete and copy your business?
Then you'll need to pay for a VPN.
Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
#48so is there any open source alternative to these meeting apps? (selfhostable)
This one is often overlook but very good, I prefer it over Jitsi https://galene.org/
Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
#49[dupe] Discussion from a week ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46767668
Re: France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US
#50Note that this is only about European governments choosing to not use US software.
Yeah, and once the precedent is settled, you can bet that the private sector will follow, and give birth to a bunch of local service companies to deploy and support those solutions in an healthier and fairer manner than the current GSuite/MSOffice duopoly.