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Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#41
I kind of lost interest in local models. Then Anthropic started saying I’m not allowed to use my Claude Code subscription with my preferred tools and it reminded me why we need to support open tools and models. I’ve cancelled my CC subscription, I’m not paying to support anticompetitive behaviour.

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

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post #41

I kind of lost interest in local models. Then Anthropic started saying I’m not allowed to use my Claude Code subscription with my preferred tools and it reminded me why we need to support open tools and models. I’ve cancelled my CC subscription, I’m not paying to support anticompetitive behaviour.

OpenAI committed to allowing it btw. I don't know why Anthropic gets so much love here

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

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post #3

This GGUF is 48.4GB - https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3-Coder-Next-GGUF/tree/main/... - which should be usable on higher end laptops. I still haven't experienced a local model that fits on my 64GB MacBook Pro and can run a coding agent like Codex CLI or Claude code well enough to be useful. Maybe this will be the one? This Unsloth guide from a sibling comment suggests it might be: https://unsloth.ai/docs/models/qwen3…

Unfortunately Qwen3-next is not well supported on Apple silicon, it seems the Qwen team doesn't really care about Apple.

On M1 64GB Q4KM on llama.cpp gives only 20Tok/s while on MLX it is more than twice as fast. However, MLX has problems with kv cache consistency and especially with branching. So while in theory it is twice as fast as llama.cpp it often does the PP all over again which completely trashes performance especially with agentic coding.

So the agony is to decide whether to endure half the possible speed but getting much better kv-caching in return. Or to have twice the speed but then often you have again to sit through prompt processing.

But who knows, maybe Qwen gives them a hand? (hint,hint)

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#45
post #41

I kind of lost interest in local models. Then Anthropic started saying I’m not allowed to use my Claude Code subscription with my preferred tools and it reminded me why we need to support open tools and models. I’ve cancelled my CC subscription, I’m not paying to support anticompetitive behaviour.

OpenAI committed to allowing it btw. I don't know why Anthropic gets so much love here

Probably because the alternatives are OpenAI, Google, Meta. Not throwing shade at those companies but it's not hard to win the hearts of developers when that's your competition.

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#46
post #41

I kind of lost interest in local models. Then Anthropic started saying I’m not allowed to use my Claude Code subscription with my preferred tools and it reminded me why we need to support open tools and models. I’ve cancelled my CC subscription, I’m not paying to support anticompetitive behaviour.

OpenAI committed to allowing it btw. I don't know why Anthropic gets so much love here

Thanks, I’ll try out Codex to bridge until local models get to the level I need.

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#47
post #3

This GGUF is 48.4GB - https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3-Coder-Next-GGUF/tree/main/... - which should be usable on higher end laptops. I still haven't experienced a local model that fits on my 64GB MacBook Pro and can run a coding agent like Codex CLI or Claude code well enough to be useful. Maybe this will be the one? This Unsloth guide from a sibling comment suggests it might be: https://unsloth.ai/docs/models/qwen3…

I wonder if the future in ~5 years is almost all local models? High-end computers and GPUs can already do it for decent models, but not sota models. 5 years is enough time to ramp up memory production, consumers to level-up their hardware, and models to optimize down to lower-end hardware while still being really good.

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#48
post #41

I kind of lost interest in local models. Then Anthropic started saying I’m not allowed to use my Claude Code subscription with my preferred tools and it reminded me why we need to support open tools and models. I’ve cancelled my CC subscription, I’m not paying to support anticompetitive behaviour.

OpenAI committed to allowing it btw. I don't know why Anthropic gets so much love here

Cause they make the best coding model.

It's that simple. Everyone else is trying to compete in other ways and Anthropic are pushing for dominate the market.

They'll eventually lose their performance edge and suddenly they will back to being cute and fluffy

I've cancelled a clause sub, but still have one.

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#49

We are getting there, as a next step please release something to outperform Opus 4.5 and GPT 5.2 in coding tasks

By the time that happens, Opus 5 and GPT-5.5 will be out. At that point will a GPT-5.2 tier open-weights model feel "good enough"? Based on my experience with frontier models, once you get a taste of the latest and greatest it's very hard to go back to a less capable model, even if that less capable model would have been SOTA 9 months ago.

I'm going in the opposite direction: with each new model, the more I try to optimize my existing workflows by breaking the tasks down so that I can delegate tasks to the less powerful models and only rely on the newer ones if the results are not acceptable.

Re: Qwen3-Coder-Next

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it depends on what you use it for. Coding, where time is money? You probably want the Good Shit, but also want decent open weights models to keep prices sane rather than sama’s 20k/month nonsense. Something like a basic sentiment analysis? You can get good results out of a 30b MoE that runs at good pace on a midrange laptop. Researching things online with many sources and decent results I’d expect to be doabl…

What does it mean for U.S. AI firms if the new equilibrium is devs running open models on local hardware?

OpenAI isn’t cornering the market on DRAM for kicks…
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