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Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by eudamoniac »

Aachen wrote: post #21

I'm an Anki user, on and off since 10 years or so, but was still confused. If I understood correctly, the entities here are: - Anki, as set up by dae aka Damien, is like the brand name and desktop implementation with the spaced repetition algorithm - AnkiWeb is what I thought this hub thing was. It's where you download decks - AnkiHub is a third party (started by "AnKing", now 35 employees) who sells decks as a month…

This sounds concerning. Someone ought to back up the public AnkiWeb decks while we still can.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by bangonkeyboard »

pityJuke wrote: post #38
digiown wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> AnkiWeb Worth noting you don't need to use it. Anki comes with a syncserver implementation for a while now, and there are docker images too. It's worth it for the transfer speeds alone IMO. Anki is under AGPL too, which has an anti-DRM clause, so many type of enshittification of anki or their addons (e.g. to prevent sharing of their decks) would be unenforceable too. As such I see no obvious things that would be su…

Aha [0], that is neat. [0]: https://docs.ankiweb.net/sync-server.html

I've tried several times before to install syncserver using those pip instructions, on multiple platforms, without success.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by runarberg »

Aachen wrote: post #29
Aachen wrote: post #21

I'm an Anki user, on and off since 10 years or so, but was still confused. If I understood correctly, the entities here are: - Anki, as set up by dae aka Damien, is like the brand name and desktop implementation with the spaced repetition algorithm - AnkiWeb is what I thought this hub thing was. It's where you download decks - AnkiHub is a third party (started by "AnKing", now 35 employees) who sells decks as a month…

(Same person as above but felt that this part had a separate purpose so I've moved it into its own comment) The ecosystem is currently such that it seems hard to enshittify it. They say they have no intention of doing that and I believe it, but their vision of a healthy and good product might involve a fair price (for rich countries at least) whereas it was always free so far Time will tell; it sounds like there's cu…

Worth mentioning too is the FSRS algorithm for scheduling cards is implemented in separate libraries which are released under MIT license.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by david_allison »

bangonkeyboard wrote: post #42
pityJuke wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aha [0], that is neat. [0]: https://docs.ankiweb.net/sync-server.html

I've tried several times before to install syncserver using those pip instructions, on multiple platforms, without success.

Try docker: https://github.com/ankitects/anki/tree/main/docs/syncserver#...

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by CGamesPlay »

surrTurr wrote: post #17

> What We Don’t Know Yet > Governance and decision-making: How decisions are made, who has final say, and how the community is heard > Roadmap and priorities: What gets built when and how to balance competing needs > The transition itself: How to bring in more support without disrupting what already works In other words: they have no clue what to do next ( https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/ankis-growing-up/68610/2#p-1905.…

From the posts, it sounds like the original maintainer was approaching the point where they'd just abandon it, so this overall seems like a better outcome than either abandonment or sale to a PE firm.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by zozbot234 »

Aachen wrote: post #29
Aachen wrote: post #21

I'm an Anki user, on and off since 10 years or so, but was still confused. If I understood correctly, the entities here are: - Anki, as set up by dae aka Damien, is like the brand name and desktop implementation with the spaced repetition algorithm - AnkiWeb is what I thought this hub thing was. It's where you download decks - AnkiHub is a third party (started by "AnKing", now 35 employees) who sells decks as a month…

(Same person as above but felt that this part had a separate purpose so I've moved it into its own comment) The ecosystem is currently such that it seems hard to enshittify it. They say they have no intention of doing that and I believe it, but their vision of a healthy and good product might involve a fair price (for rich countries at least) whereas it was always free so far Time will tell; it sounds like there's cu…

The iOS app has never been free and that's the way most people use it these days. Desktop computing is a niche.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by david_allison »

Aachen wrote: post #21

I'm an Anki user, on and off since 10 years or so, but was still confused. If I understood correctly, the entities here are: - Anki, as set up by dae aka Damien, is like the brand name and desktop implementation with the spaced repetition algorithm - AnkiWeb is what I thought this hub thing was. It's where you download decks - AnkiHub is a third party (started by "AnKing", now 35 employees) who sells decks as a month…

> - AnkiDroid is a separate open source project (an Android app). The corporation is hiring the main developer, but it's not yet clear to me whether they're just going to get paid to work more on AnkiDroid or if they're also getting other tasks

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To copy from my message on Discord:

> I’m moving to a full-time position working on Anki [incl. AnkiWeb & AnkiMobile]. I’m really excited about this, but there’s a mountain of pending, somewhat undefined work which will need to be done, and it’ll need my full-time attention for a while.

> I’ll still be contributing to AnkiDroid, but I won’t be able to commit as much time as I am doing currently (at least for the first few months while things stabilize). I’ll be here on evenings/weekends, and will be contributing in other ways (hopefully: unified Note Editor, JS addons etc… ), but I expect to slow down with code contributions to ensure I’m staying on on top of PR reviews & general force multiplier work. I’m definitely Org Admin’ing for GSoC over the summer [assuming Google gives us the greenlight], it’s historically been a VERY light role.

> In all honesty: I’m expecting things to be business as usual, I have more than enough capacity to keep up with the notification queue. Even if I completely dropped off the planet, we’re a great team and the improvements would keep on flowing. AnkiDroid’s bus factor has been >>> 1 for a LONG time now.

https://discord.gg/qjzcRTx => https://discord.com/channels/368267295601983490/701922522836...

GSoC: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by runarberg »

flexagoon wrote: post #31
DoctorOetker wrote: post #9

At a fundamental level the algorithms predict the probability of a learner to correctly recollect a factoid at a given point in time given a history of sampling that recollection / presentation. It would be interesting to have machine learning predict these probability evolutions instead. Simply recollecting tangential knowledge improves the recollection of a non-sampled factoid, which is hard to model in a strict se…

Isn't FSRS (the new algorithm used in Anki since a few years ago) already based on machine learning?

Yes. Stochastic gradient descent, to be precise.

https://github.com/open-spaced-repetition/fsrs4anki/wiki/The...

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