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Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

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Re: Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

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Post by dopidopHN2 »

doormatt wrote: post #4

>Is there any way to trick Kiki? >Several users have tried. None have succeeded. But then >What browsers does Kiki support? >KIKI supports Chrome and Safari. Other browsers can confuse it. Stick to those two.

Exactly my thought. Self-control ( a free app referenced above ) cut the access at the host file level. Superior.

Re: Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

1shooner wrote: post #35
agumonkey wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's pure digital placebo. You paid for that so now you're revenge overachieve to make it worth it.

Right, just like a gym membership.

Damn, you didn’t need to burn him like that!

Re: Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

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Post by novemp »

furyofantares wrote: post #21
Artoooooor wrote: post #16

Please, put info that this is Apple-only in the FAQ. I got it after reading through the whole page and clicking "download app" on my Android phone.

Hmm. The only button on the screen is ([Apple Logo] Send me a download link). When you scroll it off screen it's replaced with ([Apple Logo] Try Kiki) and a collage of macOS screenshots. They could certainly put it in the FAQ, which is below the ([Apple Logo] Get the App) button, I don't actually disagree with you, but it is somewhat of a funny complaint to me given the actual content of the page.

I see a grey square on the download button, no Apple logo.

Re: Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

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Post by furyofantares »

evgpbfhnr wrote: post #33
furyofantares wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm. The only button on the screen is ([Apple Logo] Send me a download link). When you scroll it off screen it's replaced with ([Apple Logo] Try Kiki) and a collage of macOS screenshots. They could certainly put it in the FAQ, which is below the ([Apple Logo] Get the App) button, I don't actually disagree with you, but it is somewhat of a funny complaint to me given the actual content of the page.

(logo doesn't render on my browser... So I wouldn't have guessed either.) (firefox/linux, but it really is a font problem, not a browser problem)

Hah, doesn't work on my PC either, I bet it pretty much only shows up on apple devices. And makes me glad I said I didn't disagree with OP!

Re: Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

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Post by tavavex »

nine_k wrote: post #13
wds wrote: post #7

For $60/year, I'd expect a lot more from software that runs on my own computer with no additional services provided.

I think that being paid is part of the thrust. If you ignore Kiki which you have bought to ruthlessly force you to stay focused, you feel bad for squandering the money. Kiki is for people so desperate that they explicitly asked for a strict master and no escape hatch anywhere. > Will KIKI judge me for my poor time management? > Yes. That's part of why it works.

Sunk cost reasoning only goes so far. See all the people who buy gym memberships or things they promise they're surely going to use, before quickly forgetting about them in spite of the large upfront costs.

It's frustrating to me how often sales pitches try to obscure or dance around the nature of money in a fashion similar to your argument - thinking of so many alternate explanations for why something has a high pricetag or a recurring payment tied to it while profusely ignoring the "we want as much money as possible and we think this is the most you'll give us" reason. As if these businesses are our friends or something.

Re: Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

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Post by tavavex »

ares623 wrote: post #10
charlie-83 wrote: post #3

Why is this a subscription?

Because modern credit card networks and payments gateways have virtually zero friction now so subscriptions are a no-brainer for everything. It takes the same amount of effort to setup a recurring subscription stack vs a one off payment.

That doesn't answer the question that was asked. The person above didn't ask about the workflow of negotiating recurring vs. singular payments with financial services. Some other 'mysterious' factor pushed this business to monetize their non-recurring service with a recurring payment. The question is if there is even a semblance of reasoning to make this a subscription (especially one with this kind of a pricetag), or if they made a purely local app once and just wanted to rent it out for more money.

Re: Kiki – Accountability monster for people who are easily distracted

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Post by tavavex »

evgpbfhnr wrote: post #33
furyofantares wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm. The only button on the screen is ([Apple Logo] Send me a download link). When you scroll it off screen it's replaced with ([Apple Logo] Try Kiki) and a collage of macOS screenshots. They could certainly put it in the FAQ, which is below the ([Apple Logo] Get the App) button, I don't actually disagree with you, but it is somewhat of a funny complaint to me given the actual content of the page.

(logo doesn't render on my browser... So I wouldn't have guessed either.) (firefox/linux, but it really is a font problem, not a browser problem)

The Apple logo character isn't a real symbol, it's just a space from the Unicode private-use area (the 'anything goes' area that's not codified and is reserved for niche local uses) that Apple decided would render as the Apple logo in iOS and macOS, probably to allow them to draw their logo as text. It's not something that should be used in browsers or anything that can render outside of Apple's ecosystem. It's not a great sign that something this front-and-center, immediately apparent on any non-Apple devices, wasn't tested by them on any other platforms.
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