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Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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I think (not really sure) there's still a 5 day grace period when you buy domains, at least for gTLDs.

Is that for real? Sounds like an abuse vector

It was, on both counts but perhaps it's changed. Search for "domain tasting"

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Before using make sure you read this entirely and understand it: https://docs.openclaw.ai/gateway/security Most important sentence: "Note: sandboxing is opt-in. If sandbox mode is off" Don't do that, turn sandbox on immediately. Otherwise you are just installing an LLM controlled RCE. There are still improvements to be made to the security aspects yet BIG KUDOS for working so hard on it at this stage and documenting…

It's typically used with external sandboxes.

I wouldn't trust its internal sandbox anyway, now that would be a mistake

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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While weekend project may be correct, I think it gives a slightly wrong impression of where this came from. Peter Steinberger is the creator who created and sold PSPDFKit, so he never has to work again. I'm listening to a podcast he was on right now and he talks about staying up all night working on projects just because he's hooked. According to him made 6,600 commits in January alone. I get the impression that he p…

Number of commits doesn't mean much.

I get what you're saying, but I don't totally agree. The number is sooo high that, while it isn't a perfect measure, I think it does mean something.

If you go look at his code, nearly all of them are under 100 lines and I'd say close to half are under 10. So you're totally right that that number is way higher than what most other developers would have for a similar amount of code. At the same time, if we assume it takes 30 seconds to make a commit on average that's still 55 hours in a month, that is way above what most would call a weekend project.

My point wasn't really that number of commits is some perfect measure of developer productivity. It was just that if you're actually building something and not just generating commits for the hell of it, there's a minimum amount of time needed for each commit. 6600 times whatever that minimum time is is probably more than what most people would think of for a weekend project.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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I would have stood my ground on the first name longer. Make these legal teams do some actual work to prove they are serious. Wait until you have no other option. A polite request is just that. You can happily ignore these. The 2nd name change is just inexcusable. It's hard to take a project seriously when a random asshole on Twitter can provoke a name change like this. Leads me to believe that identity is more import…

The first name and the second name were both terrible. Yes, the creator could have held firm on "clawd" and forced Anthropic to go through all the legal hoops but to what end? A trademark exists to protect from confusion and "clawd" is about as confusing as possible, as if confusing by design. Imagine telling someone about a great new AI project called "clawd" and trying to explain that it's not the Claude they are familiar with and the word is made up and it is spelled "claw-d".

OpenClaw is a better name by far, Anthropic did the creator a huge favor by forcing him to abandon "clawd".

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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So i feel like this might be the most overhyped project in the past longer time. I don't say it doesn't "work" or serves a purpose - but well i read so much about this beein an "actual intelligence" and stuff that i had to look into the source. As someone who spends actually a definately to big portion of his free time researching thought process replication and related topics in the realm of "AI" this is not really…

I was assuming this is largely a generic AI implementation, but with tools/data to get your info in. Essentially a global search with ai interface.

Which sounds interesting, while also being a massive security issue.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Why? What's wrong with it?

It's a vibecoded project that gives an agent full access to your system that will potentially be used by non technically proficient people. What could go wrong?

In which case you only want it running on a non networked system airgapped from everything. Why is this a thing?
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