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This seems like the kind of technology that could make the problem described in https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html a lot worse. Do you have any plans for making sure it doesn't get used for that?
Can you share more details at this point about what you are trying to tackle as a first step?
As per the announcement, we’ll be building this over the next months and sharing more information as this rolls out. Much of the fundamentals can be extracted from Lennart’s posts and the talks from All Systems Go! over the last years.
So LP is or has left Microsoft ? >We are building cryptographically verifiable integrity into Linux systems I wonder what that means ? It could be a good thing, but I tend to think it could be a privacy nightmare depending on who controls the keys.
Hi Chris, One of the most grating pain points of the early versions of systemd was a general lack of humility, some would say rank arrogance, displayed by the project lead and his orbiters. Today systemd is in a state of "not great, not terrible" but it was (and in some circles still is) notorious for breaking peoples' linux installs, their workflows, and generally just causing a lot of headaches. The systemd project…
As someone who's lost many hours troubleshooting systemd failures, I would like an answer to this question, too.
It improves on about every level compared to what came before. And no, nothing is perfect and you sometimes have to troubleshoot it.
Hi Chris, One of the most grating pain points of the early versions of systemd was a general lack of humility, some would say rank arrogance, displayed by the project lead and his orbiters. Today systemd is in a state of "not great, not terrible" but it was (and in some circles still is) notorious for breaking peoples' linux installs, their workflows, and generally just causing a lot of headaches. The systemd project…
This seems like the kind of technology that could make the problem described in https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html a lot worse. Do you have any plans for making sure it doesn't get used for that?
half of the founders of this thing come from Microsoft. I suppose this makes the answer to your question obvious.
- your bank won't let you log in from an "insecure" device.
- you won't be able to play videos on an "insecure" device.
- you won't be able to play video games on an "insecure" device.
And so on, and so forth.
If there’s a path to profitability, great for them, and for me too; because it means it won’t be available at no charge.
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> Sounds like kernel mode DRM or some similarly unwanted bullshit. Look, I hate systemd just as much as the next guy - but how are you getting "DRM" out of this?
Remote attestation is literally a form of DRM
There are also bad forms of remote attestation (like Google's variant that helps them let banks block you if you are running an alt-os). Those suck and should be rejected.
Edit: bri3d described what I mean better here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46785123